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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 06:15 PM
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GD baseline:I ran without headers 279hp and 229tq
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 06:21 PM
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hm so all the headers did was change the tone of sound, if that?
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 06:24 PM
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Prob I need a tune to see the gains. Im going back this week for the custom map. That will close this thread and open a new one. lol
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 06:24 PM
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Just a couple for now, I will get all the runs without Headers and Cobb and viceversa once they fax them to me. Big thanks to Japtrix and the Crew. From the tuner, headers are a waist of money, havent seen any positive results yet. These are with headers and Cobb Stage 2 and 2+. The lower numbers are from Cobb 2+. My review No gains from headers and loss of Torque. Final report.
Cool.. Wheres the graph legend and units on AFR? Was there a loss of peak torque or only low rpm? Low rpm loss is expected, but certainly not peak.
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 06:29 PM
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agreed, i think the factory already squeeze all the power out of our engines which is good

They extract the max power with the OEM components, but once you install aftermarket parts its a totally different ball game. His car would def make bigger numbers properly tuned... no doubt.

I do agree with you tho.. OEM setup is pretty potent.
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 06:30 PM
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^Ya I know they didnt included the graphs but I will get em. I believe AFR was on 12.3 or 12.5.
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 06:32 PM
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Dude OEM Headers are so small. All they are is heat protectors. lol. Crazy welds look like play-doh.
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 06:33 PM
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pics of the OEM headers vs stillen?
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 06:33 PM
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Not a fan of stillen.
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by elite
Not a fan of stillen.
Im bout to join that group.
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 06:36 PM
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Headers usally reduce weight, not increase power. Headers are a great investment if your FI. I'm captain research when it comes to gains.

Wrong smokey. Headers increase volumetric efficiency. If that was the only advantage of headers there would be many other parts more easily manufactured than headers. The faster you can get gasses out, the faster you can get air in. The more air in = the more fuel in. The more fuel in the more power out.
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My camera is at my GF house. Ill get it later on and take a pic of OEM.
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by G_Thang
Wrong smokey. Headers increase volumetric efficiency. If that was the only advantage of headers there would be many other parts more easily manufactured than headers. The faster you can get gasses out, the faster you can get air in. The more air in = the more fuel in. The more fuel in the more power out.
I definately feeling the car smoother. I the drone is reduced big time.
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 06:39 PM
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My camera is at my GF house. Ill get it later on and take a pic of OEM.

Pics of GF for making us wait.
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by elite
It's a very mod friendly engine. so was the last VQ. one of the best(if not the best) on the market. hell. why you you think hyundai slapped it in their genesis drift car.(the *******s)

It's a great motor for modding. Just need to find the right parts and tune. Headers usally reduce weight, not increase power. Headers are a great investment if your FI. I'm captain research when it comes to gains.


How exactly was the VQ35 one of the best mod friendly engines on the market? If you're talking about F/I, that might be more believable, but on the N/A side of things their gains are nothing to be bragging about, and if anything they might be a little bit on the short side, given the displacement of the engine. With the full bolt on modifications from intake to exhaust tip and an actual tune (not a flash or pre-done map) the gains are under 40 whp.

And on your headers comment, are you saying that for specifically the VQ engines? Because many aftermarket header applications are primarily aimed to increase power, and generally speaking, they also tend to be one of the best bang for buck modifications for a huge range of cars. Saving weight is a very negligible amount as headers aren't very heavy to begin with.
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