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I bought the car with this issue a year ago. I thought it would be a fuse or something simple.
I haven't done any modifications to it, and I'm pretty sure everything is stock from the single previous owner as well.
The car was initially bought from a dealer in a gulf country, so it is possible that a defogger is missing on this car (I'll update when I see if the rear window heats up or not).
It's going to be a tight squeeze, but I'll try to uncover the wrapped wires on the back of the connector to give you the colors. Theres no easier way to do this, or is there? I had to use the car so I put everything back together...
The car was initially bought from a dealer in a gulf country...
In other words, your car is GCC-Spec. That answers a few questions... Based on that, the wiring will be considerably different than US-Spec. We can still try getting it solved for you.
Originally Posted by Young-G
Theres no easier way to do this, or is there? I had to use the car so I put everything back together...
Unfortunately, no. Once you find the correct signal wire (pin 5/M69(?)), then it is just a matter of adding a switch and 12V+. Must find that wire, though.
IMPORTANT! : Look under the hood for a relay box near the brake master cylinder box- See if there is a mark for "REV LAMP RLY"...
Last edited by ILM-NC G37S; Dec 26, 2020 at 11:55 AM.
Just start looking under the hood for relay boxes. JDM-spec cars (Japan) have the relay under the hood. This might be why you only have one relay in the center console stack.
In other words, your car is GCC-Spec. That answers a few questions... Based on that, the wiring will be considerably different than US-Spec. We can still try getting it solved for you.
Unfortunately, no. Once you find the correct signal wire (pin 5/M69(?)), then it is just a matter of adding a switch and 12V+. Must find that wire, though.
IMPORTANT! : Look under the hood for a relay box near the brake master cylinder box- See if there is a mark for "REV LAMP RLY"...
I had a quick look, couldn't find that relay. I will dig deeper and get back to you
So the clicking for the defogger is coming from the left of the stereo I found the realy it's gray.
So the blue relay on the right must be the M69, see the picture for the colors of the wires, they are kind of faded but appears to be red, white, orange, and green.
Perfect. That is the M69 Backup Relay. It appears your wire colors match the FSM so that is a good sign. Now, just focus on pin #5 which should be a beige, tan, dull orange colored wire:
Now, if you remove the relay and use a jumper wire to apply 12V+ to pin #5, your backup lamps should light up.
ONLY TOUCH PIN #5!!!!!
This should send 12V+ directly to the backup lamps.
Let me know what happens and then we can go from there.
Electrical diagnosis and repair is a major headache. For what it is worth, thanks for being patient!
Perfect. That is the M69 Backup Relay. It appears your wire colors match the FSM so that is a good sign. Now, just focus on pin #5 which should be a beige, tan, dull orange colored wire:
Now, if you remove the relay and use a jumper wire to apply 12V+ to pin #5, your backup lamps should light up.
ONLY TOUCH PIN #5!!!!!
This should send 12V+ directly to the backup lamps.
Let me know what happens and then we can go from there.
Electrical diagnosis and repair is a major headache. For what it is worth, thanks for being patient!
No, thank you for taking the time!
So what would be a suitable place to take 12V+ from, can I use pin #1 when I take off the relay and run the wire straight to pin #5? Since it is conveniently placed so close?
The weirdest thing, with the car OFF and I touch pin #1 and #2 with the LED the LED turns on, when I put the car in ON the LED does NOT turn on and neither when I put it in P