What did you do to your Sedan today?
#4742
Registered Member
A/S tires are only good till 7°C anyways, anything below, they start to lose traction, so you need winters regardless. Summer tires are good till around 15°C before you start to feel diminished traction. Half the year here is around that 15° mark, so I don't know if going for pure summers would be worth it. Either way I'll be spending around 1k (CAD) on tires, so its not a matter of finances.
I definitely drive a helluva lot more in the summer, so that may be my answer. WHY IS THIS SO HARD?!
EDIT: Screw it... just ordered Pilot Sport 4s, somehow this is Rochester's fault.
I definitely drive a helluva lot more in the summer, so that may be my answer. WHY IS THIS SO HARD?!
EDIT: Screw it... just ordered Pilot Sport 4s, somehow this is Rochester's fault.
One of these days I'll stop being cheap and dish out for nice winter/PSS setups, but until then the A/S 3+ have plenty of grip in warm, wet, and cold weather. You'll get more mileage out of them and they ride smoother as well. They're leagues ahead of the previous Bridgestone UHP A/S that came with the car and during the summer the grip is very surprising.
#4743
DIY Cheapskate/Mod
Mike Save6MT crashed his G on all season tires at +5°C because the tires wouldn't stop. It was a dry road, no ice or snow. Rear ended someone. Its all about braking traction, not acceleration or cornering. If you also look up any tire manufacturer site or any tire shop, most, if not all, recommend 7°C as the breaking point where you should swap to winters. Thats what Im basing it on, not just made up speculation.
From personal experience, after driving my first winter with the car on all-seasons a few years back, I had more than a few close calls. It always came down to braking. Turning, acceleration were almost never the issue.
From personal experience, after driving my first winter with the car on all-seasons a few years back, I had more than a few close calls. It always came down to braking. Turning, acceleration were almost never the issue.
Last edited by hexotic; 03-21-2018 at 05:46 PM.
#4744
Administrator
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I can't speak to a course track situation, but in Auto-x you absolutely have to turn off TC if you want to bring in the shorter times. It makes quite a difference.
#4745
Premier Member
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Wow, really?!? How can you guys drive this car with the traction control on all the time?!?! It's so invasive in our cars. One of the first things I did was to add a module so the default position for the TC when you start the car is Off. You have to push the button to turn it on... and can't remember the last time I actually turned the TC on. LOL
#4746
Registered Member
I think we're all somewhat experienced drivers here, and I think it just comes down to safe driving and knowing the limits of your car and equipment. I've driven on all seasons for the entire time I've owned my car and I've never had issues in the cold/snow. Just don't drive too fast and leave plenty of space between the car in front. The car will do everything else for you. We got a few inches today and I had no problems even on staggered 20s.
#4747
Registered Member
Mike Save6MT crashed his G on all season tires at +5°C because the tires wouldn't stop. It was a dry road, no ice or snow. Rear ended someone. Its all about braking traction, not acceleration or cornering. If you also look up any tire manufacturer site or any tire shop, most, if not all, recommend 7°C as the breaking point where you should swap to winters. Thats what Im basing it on, not just made up speculation.
From personal experience, after driving my first winter with the car on all-seasons a few years back, I had more than a few close calls. It always came down to braking. Turning, acceleration were almost never the issue.
From personal experience, after driving my first winter with the car on all-seasons a few years back, I had more than a few close calls. It always came down to braking. Turning, acceleration were almost never the issue.
#4748
Premier Member
+1 on leaving extra space... even with winters. Hard to blame tear ending someone on your tires, you know what you’re working with.
Edit: not saying it was mikes fault, I’m sure there were other factors at play but I wouldn’t put the blame on his rubber per say
Edit: not saying it was mikes fault, I’m sure there were other factors at play but I wouldn’t put the blame on his rubber per say
#4750
We get random snow even in May here, and I don't want to only run summer tires from June to September. I have DWS06 and I run those from March till late October. Have proper winters for the rest of the year. I can't imagine running summer ties when those random snow hit us. Would hate having to change to winter just for a few days.
#4751
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Ive never had a problem on my A/S tires. I had super sports and now yokohama advans. I've only ever had A/s on my car also.
Although, I picked up the93owner's old wheels last week so now I have a second set, (well third if you count the crappy stocks), so maybe now I can run dedicated summer tires on them. 265/40/19 tires are not cheap though lol
He posted the dashcam footage on the FB group. IMO he was too close.
Although, I picked up the93owner's old wheels last week so now I have a second set, (well third if you count the crappy stocks), so maybe now I can run dedicated summer tires on them. 265/40/19 tires are not cheap though lol
He posted the dashcam footage on the FB group. IMO he was too close.
#4752
Registered User
We had a recent snowing here... lot of cars in ditches on my drive home, but I was fine. Whenever road conditions suck I just do a quick traction test... when the road is clear and safe, I press the brakes until they lock up, and I'll give the throttle a quick stab. That lets me know how much traction I have. Then I adjust accordingly. Winter tires won't save you from following too close....
#4753
Movin On!
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Lots of good tire replies lately, only had one incident where I was caught in snow w/Summers and barely made it home. Was about 4" of fresh snow about 70 miles from home (w/ nothing in between), some rather steady inclines/descents and a couple times barely had enough momentum to keep it going. We made it, but getting caught in a freak storm in the middle of nowhere on Summers isn't something I'd recommend
FWIW there were about a dozen cars along the way that weren't so lucky.
FWIW there were about a dozen cars along the way that weren't so lucky.
#4754
Registered Member
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We had a recent snowing here... lot of cars in ditches on my drive home, but I was fine. Whenever road conditions suck I just do a quick traction test... when the road is clear and safe, I press the brakes until they lock up, and I'll give the throttle a quick stab. That lets me know how much traction I have. Then I adjust accordingly. Winter tires won't save you from following too close....
Heck, people around here have a hard enough time in the rain