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Old Nov 20, 2010 | 09:45 PM
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Thumbs down What Engineer designed

a car with a 9.3 GB Music Box you can't actually load with music easily.

a car with memory seats that can't be set or used while the car is moving.

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Old Nov 20, 2010 | 09:47 PM
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Not anyone at Infiniti.
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Old Nov 20, 2010 | 09:51 PM
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Why would they allow memory seats to be activated while the car is moving? My wife us 5' 3" and I'm 6' 2". What happens if either of us accidentally activates the wrong memory configuration while cruising at 70 mph? The survivor would sue Infiniti for making a stupid and unsafe system.

What's the problem with the Music Box? I pop in a CD and press one button and it burns to the HDD. How's that hard?
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Old Nov 20, 2010 | 10:10 PM
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I have never owned a car with memory seats that couldn't be set and used while driving. It has two positions so you can switch positions, especially on a long trip. That way you are not stuck in one position all the time and can make adjustments and later get back to the saved position. My wife and I have different settings too; but they are governed by the two different keys to protect against unexpected surprises. As for the music box, you would think you could just transfer your music from a MP3 player or USB stick to the box and not have to spend a year recording CDs to the box.
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Old Nov 20, 2010 | 11:09 PM
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Lol love the title of this thread!
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Old Nov 21, 2010 | 01:52 AM
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I don't wanna comment on Music box b/c I rarely use. I don't complain b/c I only use the ipod.. But If I had to comment on the memory seats, I think you are wrong.
The seats shouldn't be moving while you are driving. It changes the mirror and everything, and touch of one button can cuase you to increase risk of the accident.
What cars have you owned that did change the seating position while you were driving?
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Old Nov 21, 2010 | 10:13 PM
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Thanks, someone got it.
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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 04:16 AM
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Its a one click memory too, unlike the benzes where it always works(unsafe) and in order to get it into your configuration you have to hold it there.
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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 10:05 AM
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Its a one click memory too, unlike the benzes where it always works(unsafe) and in order to get it into your configuration you have to hold it there.
It isnt really that unsafe if you have to hold it to transition. I'm sure that's exactly why it works while the car is in motion.
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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 12:40 AM
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I've got to say that I don't know what cars would let you goof around with the memory settings while the car is in motion. If there was one, I'm sure it's been addressed by now because I think that's one capability that's probably more dangerous than it is useful.

However, I personally would be inclined to add the navigation lockout while the car is in motion as a bigger issue than that. But I'm sure the lawyers played a part in that. Maybe they could have compromised and made it active if a passenger sensor detected a person in the passenger seat.

It seems like the music box thing was made useless by the software maker's desire to stay on good terms with the recording industry by trying to force you to pull music from disks you purchased and only ripping at ok quality. From reading the specs, it seems like it may be better to just use the mp3/ipod interface but others would have to confirm if that's the case or not.
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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by netmag
However, I personally would be inclined to add the navigation lockout while the car is in motion as a bigger issue than that. But I'm sure the lawyers played a part in that. Maybe they could have compromised and made it active if a passenger sensor detected a person in the passenger seat.
We’ve covered this a few times before. The passenger seat already has a sensor to determine if the seat is occupied for air bag and seat belt purposes. The problem is it would be too easy to put a weight in the seat to simulate an occupant. Even my 65 pound dog trips the seat belt light until I strap him in.

And even with a real person in the seat there’s still nothing preventing the driver from putting in manual inputs himself. (“Here dear, let me do that for you. Just shout out if I stray in another lane!”)
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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by netmag

However, I personally would be inclined to add the navigation lockout while the car is in motion as a bigger issue than that. But I'm sure the lawyers played a part in that. Maybe they could have compromised and made it active if a passenger sensor detected a person in the passenger seat.
Early OEM navigation systems did not have a lockout function while the car was in motion. My very first OEM navigation system was in a 2001 Acura and you could use all functions at any speeds.

Today, they design electronic nannies for the morons who can't be responsible enough to know when/how to safely use the navigation system. Ironically, there are literally hundreds of other things that can distract a driver other than using a navigation system. Anything from cell phones to manually tuning a radio station. So yes, you can thank the lawyers for the lockout on navigation systems these days. Lucky for us, they are easily defeatable and there are several ways around the problem. In fact, a lot of in-dash aftermarket navigation systems allow full functionality by simply permanently grounding the parking brake wire.
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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 02:19 PM
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The argument that the existence of other driver distractions justifies the nav distraction is a spurious response. One bad thing does not justify another; it only adds to the problem.

Admittedly, the nav lockout is designed for average, rather than skilled drivers. That’s OK with me, as I don’t care to be killed via a head-on distracted driver who let his eyes stray from the road a bit too long while imputing a destination.

And I still don’t understand what all the fuss is about when we have an excellent voice recognition system that makes manual inputs while driving unnecessary.
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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Chekov
The argument that the existence of other driver distractions justifies the nav distraction is a spurious response. One bad thing does not justify another; it only adds to the problem.

Admittedly, the nav lockout is designed for average, rather than skilled drivers. That’s OK with me, as I don’t care to be killed via a head-on distracted driver who let his eyes stray from the road a bit too long while imputing a destination.

And I still don’t understand what all the fuss is about when we have an excellent voice recognition system that makes manual inputs while driving unnecessary.
Then they need to design a better system:

1. How do you search for the nearest Mc Donalds using the voice recognition system? You can't.

2. Why only show the first 5 items from the list? Adding a "More" comment should do the job but no. And why does it allow full access of songs from ipod?

The system is good, but no where near "excellent".
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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 03:11 PM
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Then they need to design a better system:

1. How do you search for the nearest Mc Donalds using the voice recognition system? You can't.

2. Why only show the first 5 items from the list? Adding a "More" comment should do the job but no. And why does it allow full access of songs from ipod?

The system is good, but no where near "excellent".
Perhaps you’re right in some respects as the system could be improved. For example, on my wife’s IS250 you can say the voice command “I’m hungry” and you’ll get all the restaurant icons in your screen’s view including the nearest Golden Arches, sort of what our screens do with specific gas station icons.

But all things considered, voice recognition IMO is a far better way to input destinations over taking your eyes off the road for those 10 to 30 seconds that could cost you your life.
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