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Old May 6, 2009 | 08:27 AM
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G37S Sedan in the snow

I'm toying with the idea of upgrading to a G37S Sedan. I'm currently driving an 08 G35Xs, see sig. If do decide to upgrade I will buying an the auto again (after driving nothing but stick since 1983 I like the G's gearbox) with the sport package. My dealer will order me or find me the car.

My only concern is driving the G in the snow. I have not driven a RWD in the snow since 1981(father's car). I have own the following cars 83 GTI, 87 16V Scirocco, 98 Prelude, 00 Passat 4Motion, 02 WRX Wagon. All those cars had all-seasons tires. Although for a while I drove the scirocco with summer tires all year round, I must of been nuts.

The logical thing to do would be to buy a tire wheel package from the the tire rack with dedicated winter tires. But will need to find a place to store the wheels and tires not being used, garage is tight.

I'm thinking If go this route swapping out the stock tires, selling them and switching over immediately to high performance all-season.
Anyone driven their RWD G in the snow with all-season???
Am I nuts???
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Old May 6, 2009 | 10:28 AM
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I drove my G37S M6 during the winter here in Ottawa, Canada. With snow tires, the traction/stability control, etc it was easy to drive and quite stable. Obviously AWD would make it easier still, but the manual is not available with AWD.

The stability/traction control makes fishtailing hard to do... and even if it starts the stability control stops it by cutting power and braking the outside front wheel.

I think that a RWD G37 is fine for the snow,,, if you go for snow tires. The summer tires it comes with are totally inadequate for snow.

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Old May 6, 2009 | 10:30 AM
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it does depend how bad of an area you live in w/ huge hills or not? You do get spoiled w/ AWD on various areas that RWD still cannot hold, even with snow tires.

But if you have any extra car, I'm sure you won' t be driving the new car in bad weather situations anyways!
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Old May 6, 2009 | 10:39 AM
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Well I do have an extra car I could use, our spare car is a 94 Honda Accord.
But the G is my everyday car regardless of the weather.

But I'm curious as to how the RWD will perform in the snow with all-seasons instead of dedicated winter tires. Not too many hill by me, except for my driveway.

But I live in a nice area that has plenty of parking on the street. And to be honest my G35Xs with it's low profile tires does not climb up my driveway as well as my WRX in the snow. Depending on the amount I don't even try. So If I'm going to have to park my G in the street when we get a decent amount of snow one way or another.
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Old May 6, 2009 | 11:10 AM
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I can't comment on the G but I've done a lot of reading lately on other forums about all season tires. What I've learned is that they really don't compare to proper/good winter tires. Someone said that all seasons were basically a scam from the tire and car companies to fool us into thinking that one set of tires will do in all conditions. It's not really true except in the mild areas.

If you have to have all seasons (due to storage limitations), I'd get the AWD if you get any amount of snow.
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Old May 6, 2009 | 11:34 AM
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All season tires are not a scam. Like all tires they are a "compromise". The compound on all season tires is different from summer tires so All season rubber will not freeze at low temperatures like the compound used in summer tires.

Also no tire out at the moment excels in all weather and road conditions. Therefore all tires are "compromise" in one way or another.

Even in auto racing a team never uses the same type of rubber in every track. Different rubber for different tracks and surfaces.
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Old May 6, 2009 | 11:43 AM
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talk to Saltfish here on the forums. he had on blizzaks and drove to NJ every day from NY in the snow
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Old May 6, 2009 | 11:45 AM
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I just IM him.
Thanks.
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Old May 6, 2009 | 12:04 PM
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I swapped out my summer tires shortly after receiving the car for dedicated winter tires (bridgestone blizzak) and everything was fine. I live in NYC thou and it doesn't snow as much here however during the few times it snowed car felt fine, i didn't have any problems.
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Old May 6, 2009 | 12:13 PM
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Thanks for the feedback.
Did you swap the tires with new wheels or did you mount the snows on the stock wheels???

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Old May 6, 2009 | 02:21 PM
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gugarci - I would highly agree with your initial thought of a dedicated set of both winter and summer tires. I totalled my 07 G35S in a snowstorm in December of 07. Fishtailed in a relatively minor patch of snow and kissed a guardrail. I had the stock summer Bridgestone Potenzas on at the time, and still regret that decision.

When I picked up my 09 G37S the first thing I did was invest in a set of Blizzak LM-25s. They got me through both the occasional DC storm and a couple nasty ones back home in upstate NY. I would highly recommend them to anyone with a RWD ride.

My final plan is to keep the stock rims on the Blizzaks, and upgrade to new rims & tires (19/20s) for my summer setup. If that happens I'll sell my stock Potenzas. For now, my rims are pulling double-duty for both winter and summer tires.

Best of luck with your decision.
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Old May 6, 2009 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by gugarci
Thanks for the feedback.
Did you swap the tires with new wheels or did you mount the snows on the stock wheels???
I mounted the snow tires on the stock wheels and also got them in staggered configurations like how the summer tires are.
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Old May 6, 2009 | 04:11 PM
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That's another option. I can also do this If I do decide to upgrade to an 09G37S Sedan.

I'll either do a winter package or mount snows on my stock wheels.
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Old May 9, 2009 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by saltfish
I mounted the snow tires on the stock wheels and also got them in staggered configurations like how the summer tires are.
I've heard that thinner tires are better for snow. But that effect is insignificant when you're comparing that against switching from summer rubber to winter rubber alone.
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Old May 9, 2009 | 03:42 PM
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I've heard that thinner tires are better for snow. But that effect is insignificant when you're comparing that against switching from summer rubber to winter rubber alone.
They are, my previous 02 WRX wagon use to climb my driveway with no issues at all using thinner all season tires in the stock 17" size. My G35Xs doesn't do as well, and sometimes has to be parked in the street. If I knew that was going to happen I would of look for RWD from the start. Not that they're easy to find in the East Coast.

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