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Old Dec 9, 2010 | 03:45 PM
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Funny video.. but why would anyone jump out of the car while moving.. I think that's dangerous...
The world is full of stupid people.
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Old Dec 9, 2010 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by samrwalker
But you are talking about ice and slush. Don't be like the people that think cruise control drives their car and can take a nap. Know what the features are. Stability control doesn't magically make your tires grip when there is nothing to stick to.


Watch car go round corner with stability control, watch car go round corner without.

YouTube - How electronic stability control (ESC) works


I dont think I can get anymore obvious to you.

These were basically the EXACT same conditions I was, a decreasing radius left hand turn.

I guess that car must have magical tires or some sort of foreign magical stability control ??

My car should go around the corner the way this car did with stability control. Stability control doesn't magically make your tires grip when there is nothing to stick to ?? Hmm, really ? When there were record snow/ice storms I left my Acura RL(with near bald Michelin all-seasons) stability control on, went around an icy/snowy corner and it braked the inside wheel and kept me IN control as any stability control SHOULD, I redid the same corner with VSA(Acura Stability Control) Off and it plowed straight on.
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Old Dec 9, 2010 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Mayu
Great vid - note the wheels on most of the cars were locked. Slamming on the brakes is the worst thing you can do. Its better to steer away and slam on the accellerator.

VDC monitors tire spin with respect to all the tires. In the OPs case, if he were driving through the corner normally, VDC would not have sensed anything since wheels were all rolling. It does not compare steering angle to GPS trajectory... just weheel slippage.

I did not brake, because I knew I would plow head on even more. I did not accelerate because I know VDC allows some rear slippage, therefore my rear wouldve came around and hit the curb too, so I steered and did not hit brake or accelerator. VDC is starting to sound like glorified traction control and not stability control...
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Old Dec 9, 2010 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by samrwalker
But you are talking about ice and slush. Don't be like the people that think cruise control drives their car and can take a nap. Know what the features are. Stability control doesn't magically make your tires grip when there is nothing to stick to.
Technically I have radar cruise control that automatically brakes, so I could dose off a bit... Just kidding, I don't trust it that much.
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Old Dec 9, 2010 | 05:47 PM
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I suggest you sell your car and get a Chrysler then. Because obviously they are much better than the Infiniti at what you are asking it to do.

And how is water on a road the same condition as ice and slush? Maybe you should use better descriptive words then.
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Old Dec 9, 2010 | 05:58 PM
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and, your RL was AWD....
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Old Dec 9, 2010 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by samrwalker
I suggest you sell your car and get a Chrysler then. Because obviously they are much better than the Infiniti at what you are asking it to do.

And how is water on a road the same condition as ice and slush? Maybe you should use better descriptive words then.
That was the IIHS showing how stability control works and how it helps, not a demonstration of why to buy a Chrylser....
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Old Dec 9, 2010 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by samrwalker
and, your RL was AWD....
When you aren't applying the throttle or braking AWD makes no difference, at that point its about weight distribution, the transversely mounted V6 in the Acura and near 60/40 (F/R) weight distribution resulted in predictable understeer at the limit. The G35 bluntly understeers with less warning easier and but has more oversteer which is easy to modulate, more of a two-stage handling process, power on oversteer, power off understeer. Though it has more potential than the RL, it's down to the tires, which I have some cruddy front Kumho all seasons in the front and better grippier Dunlop all seasons in the rear. The RL had 245s all around where I have 225s in the G35(in the front), I took the corner in my G35 with VDC on like I would have in my old RL with VSA on.
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