G37 Price below MSRP?
Ehh...I don't want to go back to that statistics argument I had a while back...
I tend to agree that there are some cars which are unclaimed at the dealerships...
However, I am not really sure why... here are some possibilities:
1. Artificial inflation of demand by the dealer (aka dealer wants you to think it's in high demand, thus not negotiating on price) yet the car is really not selling all that well/people are waiting still on better deals.
2. The dealer actually ordered more cars than their particular demand called for, and some cars are left over.
3. People saw the car and backed out of the deal/couldn't get financing/didn't like terms of contract/purchase.
Here's why I say that... In South Florida, I felt this is a hot car to have, as most people in the area are affluent and most luxury cars are a dime a dozen...however, when I walked into a dealership 2 weeks ago, I walked away with a car coming in at the end of August...
If this was a super hot car as the dealers claim, I would have been placed on a list a mile long...
Anyone agree?
EDIT: The car I got my hands on was a Platinum Graphite/Graphite w/ Premium, Nav, Sport, Tech and Spoiler
However, I am not really sure why... here are some possibilities:
1. Artificial inflation of demand by the dealer (aka dealer wants you to think it's in high demand, thus not negotiating on price) yet the car is really not selling all that well/people are waiting still on better deals.
2. The dealer actually ordered more cars than their particular demand called for, and some cars are left over.
3. People saw the car and backed out of the deal/couldn't get financing/didn't like terms of contract/purchase.
Here's why I say that... In South Florida, I felt this is a hot car to have, as most people in the area are affluent and most luxury cars are a dime a dozen...however, when I walked into a dealership 2 weeks ago, I walked away with a car coming in at the end of August...
If this was a super hot car as the dealers claim, I would have been placed on a list a mile long...
Anyone agree?
EDIT: The car I got my hands on was a Platinum Graphite/Graphite w/ Premium, Nav, Sport, Tech and Spoiler
Last edited by marsb007; Aug 24, 2007 at 12:20 AM.
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You also need to consider the ones they have on the lot might be not in demand because of their options. Perhaps they don't have Sport Package or are base models and might be in less demand?
I called two dealerships besides Riverside, Infiniti. I know that Infiniti of Montclair is forcing people to buy $3,000 wheels right now. Metro Infiniti has cars that doesnt have nav options and are pretty much just premium package and wheel package (as in no sports package). A lot of cars on lots are the less popular builds. Metro Infiniti for example has a lot of G37s coming in that have the popular options... sports package, nav package, and so forth but they're all taken.
Ive noticed that most people and most dealers only have the G37s that have alot of options. Went on Auto trader to see what dealers had, and i could not find a G37 on a lot within 500 miles of me for under 39K? If i wanted a Journey with out Nav and tech and all that would i have to order it? Could i even order it?
I agree. There are definitely G37's that aren't taken, but dealers just want to act like they are eventhough they ordered extras based on the list of names they had to send in to infiniti for allocation. At least thats the impression I got from talking to a salesman.
It definitely isn't the same as when the G35 and Z first came out. I think you may be able to negotiate a little, but not much off of MSRP just to get the deal done that day. May take all day or longer to do so, but I "think" it can be done. Afterall, would a salesman rather sell the car that day or possibly a month from now? Just my opinion....
It definitely isn't the same as when the G35 and Z first came out. I think you may be able to negotiate a little, but not much off of MSRP just to get the deal done that day. May take all day or longer to do so, but I "think" it can be done. Afterall, would a salesman rather sell the car that day or possibly a month from now? Just my opinion....
Did you ask what the selling price was. I betcha it was on the window sticker. If it was 1k below that number I might kind of agree with what you are saying.
[Opinion]
From going to different dealerships around the Los Angeles county, I can assume that the G37 did not sell as first perceived. It's a great car, but the economy is on the verge of collapsing. Before the official launch, I went to different dealerships and all quoted MSRP. Most of them now are willing to sell bellow. If my words are not enough, call Glendale, Miller, and Montclair. As everything stated above is an assumption, it can only be supported once Infiniti releases monthly sales.
[/Opinion]
From going to different dealerships around the Los Angeles county, I can assume that the G37 did not sell as first perceived. It's a great car, but the economy is on the verge of collapsing. Before the official launch, I went to different dealerships and all quoted MSRP. Most of them now are willing to sell bellow. If my words are not enough, call Glendale, Miller, and Montclair. As everything stated above is an assumption, it can only be supported once Infiniti releases monthly sales.
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Last edited by nsv; Aug 24, 2007 at 03:43 AM.
[Opinion]
From going to different dealerships around the Los Angeles county, I can assume that the G37 did not sell as first perceived. It's a great car, but the economy is on the verge of collapsing. Before the official launch, I went to different dealerships and all quoted MSRP. Most of them now are willing to sell bellow. If my words are not enough, call Glendale, Miller, and Montclair Infiniti. As everything stated above is an assumption, it can only be supported once Infiniti releases monthly sales.
[/Opinion]
From going to different dealerships around the Los Angeles county, I can assume that the G37 did not sell as first perceived. It's a great car, but the economy is on the verge of collapsing. Before the official launch, I went to different dealerships and all quoted MSRP. Most of them now are willing to sell bellow. If my words are not enough, call Glendale, Miller, and Montclair Infiniti. As everything stated above is an assumption, it can only be supported once Infiniti releases monthly sales.
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nsv I agree with you 100%. I bet after September first they will be willing to bargain. And you are correct about the collapse of the economy. I don't think it's a real good time to buy a car if you don't have to. By the way I have been to many dealers in SoCal and they don't seem to be selling many cars (in general). I would definitely want to wait and see what develops.
nsc, were you able to get a quote below MSRP?
nsc, were you able to get a quote below MSRP?
When I "reserved" my car off the first three shipments coming in, all that was really left were modestly equipped cars - no Nav, Tech, or even sport packages. There two on the list with just the Premium package and wood.
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gurney
It really simply comes down to there only being 2 sides to the equation: supply versus demand.
We all know that mainstream cars can be cranked out by the tens of thousands so, in reality, supply should not be a problem. Of course it is always possible to create the perception of low supply and high demand.
The only part of the equation that the consumer can control is the demand part. If there are enough people lining up at the dealers and putting down money sight unseen so that they can be first on the block, the dealers would have to be nuts not to take advantage of this. For me, the momentary thrill of being the first has never been enough to prevent me from waiting a while and saving money.
Doug
We all know that mainstream cars can be cranked out by the tens of thousands so, in reality, supply should not be a problem. Of course it is always possible to create the perception of low supply and high demand.
The only part of the equation that the consumer can control is the demand part. If there are enough people lining up at the dealers and putting down money sight unseen so that they can be first on the block, the dealers would have to be nuts not to take advantage of this. For me, the momentary thrill of being the first has never been enough to prevent me from waiting a while and saving money.
Doug
After test driving a 6MT last night at Mission Viejo, Orange County, what I saw was a board on the showroom floor with a listing of incoming G37's for each month through December. There were at least 20 cars each month with their listed specs...and out of the 20, only 2-5 had a "sold" label next to them each month. Other dealers I've been to also say their intitial shipment is like 15-20 cars.
BUT Yes, each market is different. You would think that even with the buying power that OC residents have, I'd see more "sold" labels....and eventhough Orange County has plenty of dealerships, with the uncertainty of housing market, people are perhaps hesitant to throw down $40K on a car. Besides, coupes are traditionally harder to move off the lots. I think the demand is not as high as they make it appear.
I'm just waiting for the VPP discount to apply...so I hope these factors help to minimize the wait.
BUT Yes, each market is different. You would think that even with the buying power that OC residents have, I'd see more "sold" labels....and eventhough Orange County has plenty of dealerships, with the uncertainty of housing market, people are perhaps hesitant to throw down $40K on a car. Besides, coupes are traditionally harder to move off the lots. I think the demand is not as high as they make it appear.
I'm just waiting for the VPP discount to apply...so I hope these factors help to minimize the wait.


