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Old 03-26-2014, 09:49 AM
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Affordable Horsepower increase

Hey Everyone, I just bought a 2010 G37 convertible and am looking to increase the horesepower a little bit. I'm not looking to have 500Hp or anything like that. I'm simply looking to add maybe 50 more horsepower at the wheels. I also don't have the budget to put on a supercharger/ turbo. What modifications would you guys suggest, also any specific brands?
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Originally Posted by opieatdream
Hey Everyone, I just bought a 2010 G37 convertible and am looking to increase the horesepower a little bit. I'm not looking to have 500Hp or anything like that. I'm simply looking to add maybe 50 more horsepower at the wheels. I also don't have the budget to put on a supercharger/ turbo. What modifications would you guys suggest, also any specific brands?
You can't get 50hp with bolt on's. Sorry. Every single bolt on will cost nearly as much as a supercharger kit, and net you half the horsepower.

Sorry.
Old 03-26-2014, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by opieatdream
Hey Everyone, I just bought a 2010 G37 convertible and am looking to increase the horesepower a little bit. I'm not looking to have 500Hp or anything like that. I'm simply looking to add maybe 50 more horsepower at the wheels. I also don't have the budget to put on a supercharger/ turbo. What modifications would you guys suggest, also any specific brands?
Good luck my man. My BWHP:$$$$ ratio is close to $68.00 / 1 BWHP.
I've only netted 30 BWHP or so. Those numbers go up slightly if you use only the BEST bolt ons.
Old 03-26-2014, 10:23 AM
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Sure you can. Strap on a 50 shot of NOS.
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Nitrous.
Old 03-26-2014, 03:12 PM
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Hey Opie congrats on the purchase of your new G! Everyone's definitiion of affordable is subjective but this package will help get you to 400hp at the crank or 335-340 wheel horsepower.

The package is $1,348 and includes headers, test pipes and a Z1 modified intake plenum.

VQ37VHR 400HP Package

Bear in mind that this assumes you already have a catback exhaust and Stillen Gen3 intake, and an UPREV tune to maximize the performance gains.

Figure in $1,400 for a solid catback exhaust like Fast Intentions, ≈$500 for Stillen Gen 3 intakes, and the cost of UPREV + a tune. You could probably get everything for under $4k but as others have mentioned, that's as good as it's going to get short of going TT or Supercharged.

TT kits usually start out at ≈$7k and then there's the labor to install, so comparitively, the aforementioned mods could be considered budget but everything is relative.


Originally Posted by opieatdream
Hey Everyone, I just bought a 2010 G37 convertible and am looking to increase the horesepower a little bit. I'm not looking to have 500Hp or anything like that. I'm simply looking to add maybe 50 more horsepower at the wheels. I also don't have the budget to put on a supercharger/ turbo. What modifications would you guys suggest, also any specific brands?
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UpRev told me in person at their main office in Austin that a modded manifold and CAI will make 0 difference with their tune.
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Originally Posted by pebkac
UpRev told me in person at their main office in Austin that a modded manifold and CAI will make 0 difference with their tune.
To clarify, you are saying that a stock uprev tuned G37 will make identical horsepower to a g37 tuned with CAI and ported manifold?
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Dude, feel free to call then when your specific questions.....I don't work for UpRev


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To clarify, you are saying that a stock uprev tuned G37 will make identical horsepower to a g37 tuned with CAI and ported manifold?
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Originally Posted by pebkac
Dude, feel free to call then when your specific questions.....I don't work for UpRev
Easy, easy, I'm just asking what you mean!

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Originally Posted by pebkac
UpRev told me in person at their main office in Austin that a modded manifold and CAI will make 0 difference with their tune.
I just got the Uprev tune and the CAI is what makes one of the biggest differences with the vehicle. Plus HFCs and you WILL see gains. I don't care what is said. Proof is in the numbers and the engineering. More AIR + FUEL= MORE HP Reduce back pressure on the engine and you gain MORE HP. Thats internal combustion engines 101.

I think you mean Exhaust manifold BTW. The Uprev associate I spoke with stated that the exhaust manifold is already pretty well engineered for the car and changing it for the sake of the tune wouldn't yield any difference alone.
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Interesting. I haven't looked into much on the manifolds as I had not intended to take my car that far mod wise. I'd be interested to hear what Z1 does to the stock intake plenum.

The 370Z forum might be a good place to check too. They seem to be more adventurous when it comes to swapping intake plenums and exhaust manifolds to long tube headers.

I would think that you'd see some decent gains with all of the parts together. I know when I installed my CAI with the stock ECU, I noticed a fairly significant gain in power across the mid-range. I haven't dyno'd since the CAI but bone stock I put down 270WHP. I'll probably wait until the FI cat back and RHFC's are installed before I dyno again.

Then I'll either go Uprev or ECUtek and probably have the legendary Kenny Tran of Jotech do the tune.

Originally Posted by warped ideas
I think you mean Exhaust manifold BTW. The Uprev associate I spoke with stated that the exhaust manifold is already pretty well engineered for the car and changing it for the sake of the tune wouldn't yield any difference alone.
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Originally Posted by warped ideas
I just got the Uprev tune and the CAI is what makes one of the biggest differences with the vehicle. Plus HFCs and you WILL see gains. I don't care what is said. Proof is in the numbers and the engineering. More AIR + FUEL= MORE HP Reduce back pressure on the engine and you gain MORE HP. Thats internal combustion engines 101.

I think you mean Exhaust manifold BTW. The Uprev associate I spoke with stated that the exhaust manifold is already pretty well engineered for the car and changing it for the sake of the tune wouldn't yield any difference alone.
+1 I believe CAI do make a difference, my tuner said so as well
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Old 03-26-2014, 05:23 PM
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Keep in mind most of these parts alone won't gain you much. Its the combination of them thats giving you the flow you need to make a real difference.

Like others said your going to spend most of the amount you'd pay for a stillen supercharger kit for less than half of the power increase. That said, besides maybe the intakes and manifold, all the other mods mentioned will save you $$$ later on because you'll already have them done if you go with boost
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Originally Posted by Skyline6mt
Keep in mind most of these parts alone won't gain you much. Its the combination of them thats giving you the flow you need to make a real difference.

Like others said your going to spend most of the amount you'd pay for a stillen supercharger kit for less than half of the power increase. That said, besides maybe the intakes and manifold, all the other mods mentioned will save you $$$ later on because you'll already have them done if you go with boost
+1 The effects aren't linear or cumulative. It's kinda the "big picture" idea that gives the power. With CAI and HFCs your allowing your engine to breath easier. Cooler air combusts a better than hot air. Reducing back pressure on the engine via HFCs or full exhuast allows for a better movement of air. All things things in conjunction equate to better HP. You won't be seeing anything close to 400HP let alone BWHP with the common bolt-ons. You need FI to get into that club. LOL


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