My Q60...? Infiniti announces no more G
12-18-2012, 01:47 PM
#76
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6 months are not enough time to do anything major or minor... the specs of the car were already locked in place. He has been handed the successor to the G - like it or not.
And, yes, he had US market requirements input to Audi - but not responsibility for design.
And, yes, he had US market requirements input to Audi - but not responsibility for design.
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12-18-2012, 02:02 PM
#77
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-Built on Mercedes C-Class chassis
-Engine designed and built by Nissan
-Inspired by a new CEO who previously worked for Audi, a European company who builds very luxurious and exhilarating cars.
I can only predict that the new Q50 will not only be quieter, bigger but yet wider, lighter, faster, and lower to the ground, with the most luxury Infiniti has ever put in any of their vehicles, including an interior much more superior to the current M's.
The current C-class chassis is no great shakes: it's smaller, narrower, and heavy. Dynamics are poor. Presumably we won't get stuck with that, and if there is any sharing the Germans will come out of it much better off than they are now. Frankly I have to wonder what the exact deal is here since Nissan has excellent cash flow and resources on it's own to further develop the excellent FM chassis as well as the rumored joint FWD car.
We won't know until next month, and maybe not even then, but I do have to wonder how much if anything came from Mercedes.
In any case, we know the chassis won't take a backwards step (statements from Execs have clearly said that chassis dynamics is a priority), so the next item of interest is the drivetrains: some sort of 4 (think "EcoBoost"), a diesel, and a VQ variant. I think it's obvious there will be multiple choices in the Q60/70. And since the platform will undoubtedly be used for the next M and FX, will it be capable of accommodating a V8 again, and which one? 5 or 5.6 liter? I don't think we'll see a new M or FX until a year from now. And in the meantime, we will have a new Q coupe to look forward to as well.
12-18-2012, 02:43 PM
#78
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The S in Volvo stood for sedan (with V for wagons). The A in Audi is pretty obvious. What does Q mean again?
12-18-2012, 02:46 PM
#79
Except strengthen the sponsorhip ties between Red Bull Racing (3 time defending Driver and Constructor Formula 1 World Champions) and Infiniti from an associate sponsor agreement to primary name sponsor of the team. If you don't follow motorsport at all you may not even know this. However this is a very major deal.
In 6 months on the job he's initiated a brand makeover as well. How well it goes over when the time actually comes remains to be seen, but he's already done quite a lot in a short time on the job IMO.
In 6 months on the job he's initiated a brand makeover as well. How well it goes over when the time actually comes remains to be seen, but he's already done quite a lot in a short time on the job IMO.
12-18-2012, 02:48 PM
#80
After exhaustive research and evaluation, we concluded that 'Q' captured the inspiration within the next generation of Infiniti models, as well as emphasizing our performance credentials while harking back to our heritage with the Q45 – Infiniti's first iconic flagship product in 1989.
12-18-2012, 02:57 PM
#81
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I can see a right wing and a left wing forming already haha
12-18-2012, 03:09 PM
#82
any thoughts on engine displacements ? whats going to happen with the 3.7L?
I was flipping through some prototype videos earlier and heard the sound the car makes, it does still sound like a V6.
But honestly speaking, the next gen car will without a doubt pack more weight and size so I was hoping we would get a few more engine choices.
Most likely we'll get an efficient 2 liter turbo'ed i4 for the base range and some sort of forced induction 3 liter 6 stroke for the high end. And as for the next IPL, just throw in the R35 gtr engine in
I was flipping through some prototype videos earlier and heard the sound the car makes, it does still sound like a V6.
But honestly speaking, the next gen car will without a doubt pack more weight and size so I was hoping we would get a few more engine choices.
Most likely we'll get an efficient 2 liter turbo'ed i4 for the base range and some sort of forced induction 3 liter 6 stroke for the high end. And as for the next IPL, just throw in the R35 gtr engine in
12-18-2012, 03:36 PM
#83
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I was under the impression from various interviews and leaks that it was a 2.4 liter supercharged engine being developed and that it would be used in various Nissan corporate products. And, if you saw the video of Jay Leno visiting the design bureau for the new Z, perhaps in that as well. FM platform or not also TBD.
And, BTW, the head of the GT-R engineering said that there was no way that engine was going into anything else. And, frankly, IMHO, it wouldn't work anywhere near as well with only 2-wheel drive. I have 80% of that power in my supercharged RWD G and traction is a major bummer. It's not that the GT-R really makes all that much power, and it certainly weighs a helluva lot - it's the ability of the GT-R to put it down onto the ground. Duplicate that in a Q, and it would cost 95k and weigh 4200 pounds.
And, BTW, the head of the GT-R engineering said that there was no way that engine was going into anything else. And, frankly, IMHO, it wouldn't work anywhere near as well with only 2-wheel drive. I have 80% of that power in my supercharged RWD G and traction is a major bummer. It's not that the GT-R really makes all that much power, and it certainly weighs a helluva lot - it's the ability of the GT-R to put it down onto the ground. Duplicate that in a Q, and it would cost 95k and weigh 4200 pounds.
12-18-2012, 04:36 PM
#84
Well, thanks to Black Betty's not-so-subtle sarcasm, I have already flip-flopped!
I see the error of my ways, sir... what's in a name? I'm still not thrilled about it, but BB makes a valid point. If it improves upon an already successful vehicle, I will buy it no matter what they call it.
I see the error of my ways, sir... what's in a name? I'm still not thrilled about it, but BB makes a valid point. If it improves upon an already successful vehicle, I will buy it no matter what they call it.
12-18-2012, 04:48 PM
#85
Well, thanks to Black Betty's not-so-subtle sarcasm, I have already flip-flopped!
I see the error of my ways, sir... what's in a name? I'm still not thrilled about it, but BB makes a valid point. If it improves upon an already successful vehicle, I will buy it no matter what they call it.
I see the error of my ways, sir... what's in a name? I'm still not thrilled about it, but BB makes a valid point. If it improves upon an already successful vehicle, I will buy it no matter what they call it.
Infiniti is screwing up big time because I could easily come out of a store to find that 2 other Infinitis have parked on either side of me and the names are so similar, how will I know which one is mine?!?!?! I mean sure one is a convertible and one is a huge SUV and mine is a coupe, but come on! I will decide on the next car I buy strictly based on how cool the name is. Regardless of how awesome the car itself might be. THAT makes sense.
12-18-2012, 05:20 PM
#87
As far as I'm concerned its appropriate the G should be the Q being that the G series has been Infiniti's "flagship" for the past 10-11 years.
No one is going pass up on this car because it is no longer a "G". That's just silly. People will pass on it if it does not live up to the competition and the BMW 4 concept looks kind of sweet so the next Q coupe better bring its A game.
No one is going pass up on this car because it is no longer a "G". That's just silly. People will pass on it if it does not live up to the competition and the BMW 4 concept looks kind of sweet so the next Q coupe better bring its A game.
12-18-2012, 05:21 PM
#88
Many of us (including myself) tend to rush to our keyboards and post reactionary (and often ridiculous in the sober light of reflection) posts before taking time to digest information and reason on it. I blame our instant information society.
Whether the names suck or not, it isn't going to stop an intelligent person from buying a good vehicle if it suits their needs or wants. If they were to put different sheet metal on a GTR and call it a Q90 with an Infiniti badge, who would say it sucks? Besides the normal blowhard idiots who say such things and are generally ignored by intelligent people?
Corvair is a cool car name. So is Beretta. I could go on an on with cool names of crappy cars. And vice versa. "250 GTO" doesn't particularly excite, but the car seems to go for a lot of money whenever one comes up for sale. Gumpert is a funny sounding car name but I'd take one.
Whether the names suck or not, it isn't going to stop an intelligent person from buying a good vehicle if it suits their needs or wants. If they were to put different sheet metal on a GTR and call it a Q90 with an Infiniti badge, who would say it sucks? Besides the normal blowhard idiots who say such things and are generally ignored by intelligent people?
Corvair is a cool car name. So is Beretta. I could go on an on with cool names of crappy cars. And vice versa. "250 GTO" doesn't particularly excite, but the car seems to go for a lot of money whenever one comes up for sale. Gumpert is a funny sounding car name but I'd take one.
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