WTF? The G sedan may get a 4 cyl.
There's nothing wrong with the 328I. Before bought my first G I test drove a 335I and a 328I. And while the 335I is clearly faster. I felt the 328I was more fun to drive and felt lighter and responded quicker to steering input. It's even more fun to drive than the G37S. That's why it keeps beating the G37 in the C&D comparison. And C&D is not on BMW's payroll.
All of these cars have become too big and too heavy to be tossable and really fun to drive. Go drive a Miata on a track, HP is not everything. And I'm a HP snob myself that's why I bought a G37s over a 328I. Also BMW's are not as reliable as Infiniti or any other Japanese car.
Now for my answer to the question above the 5 series is too big and heavy for the 230hp engine. But if price was no option I'd be driving a 535I with the sport package. Same size and weight as the G with a little more power. But another car I would considered is the 335D. Almost as fast as the 335I, tons of torque, gets better gas millage, and diesel engines are bullet proof.
All of these cars have become too big and too heavy to be tossable and really fun to drive. Go drive a Miata on a track, HP is not everything. And I'm a HP snob myself that's why I bought a G37s over a 328I. Also BMW's are not as reliable as Infiniti or any other Japanese car.
Now for my answer to the question above the 5 series is too big and heavy for the 230hp engine. But if price was no option I'd be driving a 535I with the sport package. Same size and weight as the G with a little more power. But another car I would considered is the 335D. Almost as fast as the 335I, tons of torque, gets better gas millage, and diesel engines are bullet proof.
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I like the idea of having a entry level G with a smaller engine, but I think to make it really successful Infiniti needs to bring the price down more. Honestly, I can't imagine most Americans buying a simple v4 sedan for the high 30s or low 40s. Cut some costs, lose some weight, and add a turbo, then you have something worth buying.
There are plenty of performance 4-cylinder cars, using high compression and/or forced induction. Although I'm think none of them are as big as the G sedan. And both the mitsu Evo & subie wrx sti are retailing in the high 30s and up. But yeah, if it's just going to be a slower version of the G, I'd think the price would need to come down as well.
Also it's not going to have that sweet engine note the 3.7 has. For my own tastes I'd rather they made a V8 G. I guess you can have something close to that with the M, but that's not as sporty and there's no MT.
Also it's not going to have that sweet engine note the 3.7 has. For my own tastes I'd rather they made a V8 G. I guess you can have something close to that with the M, but that's not as sporty and there's no MT.
V-6 Rocks
I purchased my G37 Sedan yesterday. I did a lot of research and it came down to either the Audi A4 or G37 Sedan.
The primary difference for me was the Audi only offered a turbo 4 and CVT in the 2WD version. While the Audi had good initial power, it couldn't come near the throaty roar of the G37 V-6. Throw in the Audi's CVT vs. the 7 speed G37 tranny and it was an easy decision to go with the G37.
I guess the 4 is a good option to have, but to me it's a competitive advantage for the G to only offer the much more powerful V-6.
BMW doesn't offer a 4 on the 300 series does it? I think a straight 5 is the smallest they offer, isn't it?
The primary difference for me was the Audi only offered a turbo 4 and CVT in the 2WD version. While the Audi had good initial power, it couldn't come near the throaty roar of the G37 V-6. Throw in the Audi's CVT vs. the 7 speed G37 tranny and it was an easy decision to go with the G37.
I guess the 4 is a good option to have, but to me it's a competitive advantage for the G to only offer the much more powerful V-6.
BMW doesn't offer a 4 on the 300 series does it? I think a straight 5 is the smallest they offer, isn't it?
The G25 uses a Nissan designed and built 2.5L V6. 2011 Infiniti G25 Will Not Get a Turbocharged V6 (The Torque Report)
The only 4 cylinder that Mercedes offers right now is a 1.8L unit in Europe. So if they use that one expect to see a G18.
The only 4 cylinder that Mercedes offers right now is a 1.8L unit in Europe. So if they use that one expect to see a G18.
I actually cross shopped the G37 and the BMW 335i / M3. I ended up going for the G37 becuase it was bigger and Infiniti didn't nickel and dime you for every option.
Why not a 535i? They're a great alternative to NA V8 on 550i. You can easily mod the car to have 400hp. That is... if you're willing to mod it.
Originally Posted by B L U E S L A T E
Why not a 535i? They're a great alternative to NA V8 on 550i. You can easily mod the car to have 400hp. That is... if you're willing to mod it.
The VQ25HR is going to be well over 200 hp anyways. Torque will come in probably in the 190ish range.
^^ Exactly, but the engine differences will likely be it. "optional" features on the G25 may be standard on the G37, but otherwise, identical cars.
They're not going to offer a Turbo 4. It'd be way too eay to mod and surpass a G37 in performance. The 2.5L V6 in NA form offers 220/194 HP/TQ so they're not going to offer a 4 cyliner in a lower model that will exceed that.
I don't mod my cars and the models with bigger engines sometimes come with features that aren't available on the lower models. To me it's not about just horsepower, it's about the complete vehicle. I'd take a stock 550i over a modded 535i any day.
I don't mod my cars and the models with bigger engines sometimes come with features that aren't available on the lower models. To me it's not about just horsepower, it's about the complete vehicle. I'd take a stock 550i over a modded 535i any day.
But if money was really a non factor at all and in my fantasy I had a I had a second car for everyday use I'd go straight to the M5.
Genesis coupe i4t vs v6? The i4 isn't even close.
The VQ25HR is going to be well over 200 hp anyways. Torque will come in probably in the 190ish range.
^^ Exactly, but the engine differences will likely be it. "optional" features on the G25 may be standard on the G37, but otherwise, identical cars.
The VQ25HR is going to be well over 200 hp anyways. Torque will come in probably in the 190ish range.
^^ Exactly, but the engine differences will likely be it. "optional" features on the G25 may be standard on the G37, but otherwise, identical cars.
The 2.5L V6 puts out 220/194 HP/TQ as it is right now so that seems inline with what you're saying.


