Vr30 swap
02-13-2016, 01:27 PM
#16
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I think some peeps are missing my point, I know it will be stupid expensive right now, but some years down the line it won't be as expensive as the market will be flooded with these parts. I for one would be happy with the base vr30 and build from there. if you can get the engine, trans, ecu, it really shouldn't be that bad to do this swap. if all the drive train can fit in the q50 then it should easily be transplanted into a g37.
We'll it's a completely irrelevant statement. If the original discussion is about making the car faster via an engine swap or FI, stating that you could buy another G37 has nothing to do with that.
You could also buy 9000 bottles of iced tea, 45k Sq Ft of sod or 1500 tickets to Disneyland. So what?
You could also buy 9000 bottles of iced tea, 45k Sq Ft of sod or 1500 tickets to Disneyland. So what?
02-13-2016, 11:31 PM
#17
[QUOTE=Epiphany;3994970]If you're also talking taking the trans and ECU, you probably won't be able to get the swap done for under 20k all said and done. I don't think the market will ever be flooded with these parts either, how many wrecked cars with this engine are you expecting?
I'm not really expecting anything really, this engine is going to be in other model Infiniti vehicles and is going to be in Japanese models too. so, just an estimate here, in about 5-6 years there should be plenty to get our hands on. that's when I would be looking to do such a thing anyway. plus, a twin setup with the cost of a built motor and trans would run you about 20k all said and done as well. sure the vhr would be putting out more power, but to have pretty much all factory built parts with twins and some newer tech would be nice too. also, if the vr30 is anything like vr38, there will be some seriously reliable power to be had with some tuning and fueling changes. I would rather make turbo power on a motor built to do so.
I'm not really expecting anything really, this engine is going to be in other model Infiniti vehicles and is going to be in Japanese models too. so, just an estimate here, in about 5-6 years there should be plenty to get our hands on. that's when I would be looking to do such a thing anyway. plus, a twin setup with the cost of a built motor and trans would run you about 20k all said and done as well. sure the vhr would be putting out more power, but to have pretty much all factory built parts with twins and some newer tech would be nice too. also, if the vr30 is anything like vr38, there will be some seriously reliable power to be had with some tuning and fueling changes. I would rather make turbo power on a motor built to do so.
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conkus805 (02-14-2016)
02-14-2016, 01:38 AM
#19
Why stop at the VR30, why not vr38 mated to the q70 transmission. Ala Eau Rouge. Infiniti proved it would fit, just not cost effective for the $$ but the power is there stock. Engine mounts are the same as the Vr shares a lot with the VQ in terms of dimensions. And I'm not being sarcastic either. If they could fit it in a Juke, there is hope. All it takes is money and ingenuity
02-14-2016, 11:06 AM
#20
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Why stop at the VR30, why not vr38 mated to the q70 transmission. Ala Eau Rouge. Infiniti proved it would fit, just not cost effective for the $$ but the power is there stock. Engine mounts are the same as the Vr shares a lot with the VQ in terms of dimensions. And I'm not being sarcastic either. If they could fit it in a Juke, there is hope. All it takes is money and ingenuity
02-14-2016, 04:28 PM
#21
I'm not really expecting anything really, this engine is going to be in other model Infiniti vehicles and is going to be in Japanese models too. so, just an estimate here, in about 5-6 years there should be plenty to get our hands on. that's when I would be looking to do such a thing anyway. plus, a twin setup with the cost of a built motor and trans would run you about 20k all said and done as well. sure the vhr would be putting out more power, but to have pretty much all factory built parts with twins and some newer tech would be nice too. also, if the vr30 is anything like vr38, there will be some seriously reliable power to be had with some tuning and fueling changes. I would rather make turbo power on a motor built to do so.
The stock VQ37VHR and 6MT can already make "seriously reliable power" without being built. There are plenty of stock block single and twin turbo cars pushing 550+ whp. Last time I checked the VR38 needs to be built after ~550-600wtq vs the VQ37VHRs at ~450-500wtq.
Last edited by ttv36; 02-14-2016 at 04:54 PM.
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jpowersjr2 (04-25-2019)
02-16-2016, 12:45 PM
#22
Your hypothetical 20k swap 5-6 years from now is twice as expensive as a single turbo build that costs less than $10k and makes 550+ whp which can be had TODAY.
The stock VQ37VHR and 6MT can already make "seriously reliable power" without being built. There are plenty of stock block single and twin turbo cars pushing 550+ whp. Last time I checked the VR38 needs to be built after ~550-600wtq vs the VQ37VHRs at ~450-500wtq.
The stock VQ37VHR and 6MT can already make "seriously reliable power" without being built. There are plenty of stock block single and twin turbo cars pushing 550+ whp. Last time I checked the VR38 needs to be built after ~550-600wtq vs the VQ37VHRs at ~450-500wtq.
02-16-2016, 02:08 PM
#23
I understand your reasoning, but this is something different and not something that has been done over and over again to where it's just another vq with a turbo. Turbo vqs have been done to death and I would want something new and different. Not everybody wants what you or other turbo vq guys have.
If you were so destined on being "different" why wouldn't you do as eljoker mentioned and get the VR38 which has been out for longer than 5-6 years?
At this point, I will just echo this:
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02-16-2016, 03:54 PM
#24
Will do, and I don't ever remember saying the vr38 was godly but I guess you can add in whatever to make your point. If it wasn't inherent in the post that doing something new was my point, then I guess I need to spell out things for people so it is more clear.thank you for your input though, all the things you mentioned are known things, much appreciated.
04-24-2019, 11:42 PM
#25
VR30 swap in g37
I'm just wondering when the first swap of one of the new turbo engines will happen? I would love to have that motor in my 37 sedan, I'm sure it is possible considering there were no chassis modifications to the q50 for the vr30 to fit. Can't wait to see what the potential is for these motors. I know the question of why not just turbo the vhr is going to be asked, reason being that this motor is based on the vr38 that powers the gtr, and we all know what that motor can do. I don't know, I'm just thinking out loud, anyone else tossing this idea around in their head? I want to keep my g for a long time, in 4-5 years there should be a healthy aftermarket for these engines and quite a few in junkyards, might be a good alternative to buying a new car.
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Kako Soler (05-16-2019)
04-25-2019, 07:22 AM
#26
Don't listen to these haters bro. They're just mad cause they wasted 10k on turbos. The engine is going for $2500 right now and will fit on the g37 subframe with no problems. Auto trans & engine mates up perfectly. ECU is less than $500, TCU is $80, wire harness $250-300 and beer was around $500 lol. Total cost for this swap was less than $5000 if DIY. I DID IT AND DON'T HAVE TO PROVE IT TO ANY HATERS ON THIS FORUM.
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jpowersjr2 (04-25-2019)
04-29-2019, 11:17 PM
#29
To be very honest, I've thought of some crazy swap ideas too, just never voiced them cause I thought they were stupid... M56 motor in a G? Probably stupid... But VR30 would be neat! Listen, if down the road I have the money and still own the car, I'd love to give something different a shot!
05-16-2019, 11:43 PM
#30
What’s your email address? I want to ask you some questions.
Hey, what your email address, I want to ask you some questions.
Don't listen to these haters bro. They're just mad cause they wasted 10k on turbos. The engine is going for $2500 right now and will fit on the g37 subframe with no problems. Auto trans & engine mates up perfectly. ECU is less than $500, TCU is $80, wire harness $250-300 and beer was around $500 lol. Total cost for this swap was less than $5000 if DIY. I DID IT AND DON'T HAVE TO PROVE IT TO ANY HATERS ON THIS FORUM.