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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 10:37 PM
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Bird Crap permanently damaging paint?!?!

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I recently bought a black G37 coupe. I live right by the water and there are tons of birds. My car is getting quite a bit of attention from the birds. I washed my car just now and noticed that everywhere where the bird **** was, there is a mark that remains now matter how hard I scrub. The paint doesn't seem damaged (it is still completely smooth), but the paint appears to be slightly discolored, kind of frosty looking. Does anybody have any thoughts on this? Is there something I can do to remove this markings? This is super annoying. Thanks a lot everybody.

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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 11:00 PM
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Yeah bird poop is acidic and can damage your paint. I've seen it eat through paint if left on long enough.
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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 11:08 PM
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Is there anything I can do to get rid of these markings? Can they be buffed out? Or are they permanent?

So basically I need to remove all bird **** as soon as I see it? I figured I could wait and wash it all off at once, but that clearly didn't work. Any suggestions for quick, effective removal?
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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 11:13 PM
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Check out the Car Car & Detailing section to answer your question. In short, not a lot you can do now and more than likely it will go away in time but not always. Get some quick detailer and a microfiber towel and keep it in the trunk. Comes in very handy. If bird crap gets a chance to sit there in the sun, especially on darker colors, you're going to notice it after a wash. Check out that CC&D section and there is a ton of information by some pro's.
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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 11:56 PM
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G37 coupe is number 3 on the list of cars most likely to be pooped on by birds. Reported by the National Audubon Society.
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 12:24 AM
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Bird poop practically ruined my 08 BO G37. By the time I traded it in there were 6-7 spots that had permanently damaged the cc. Its tough to keep the crap off when you park the car all day at work and don't even see it until its baked in the sun all day....
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 10:01 AM
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Yeah, bird poop damage is permanant, unfortunately.

Also, your car gets pooped on because it is black, and shiney. Birds natually want to poop in water. Your car give the illusion of such. It may be too late now, but make sure you keep copious amounts of wax, sealants on your paint to prevent the damage of bird poop.
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 10:05 AM
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Also I recommend using a plastic bag to keep the microfiber in. After you use it be sure to wash your hands. Bird excrement contains various bacteria and fungi that can cause infection.
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Coupe Daddy
Yeah, bird poop damage is permanant, unfortunately.

Also, your car gets pooped on because it is black, and shiney. Birds natually want to poop in water. Your car give the illusion of such. It may be too late now, but make sure you keep copious amounts of wax, sealants on your paint to prevent the damage of bird poop.
^^And because of that big tree you're under for shade. I stay away from trees now.
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 10:19 AM
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I try and stay away from trees and lamp posts, where birds roost.
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 10:41 AM
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To avoid bird crap do not park under a tree. Yeah your car may be hot when you get in but Id rather have that then spend money on getting bird stains out of my clear coat.

To remove bird crap you want to blast it off with water first as to soak it a bit. You can use a microfiber towel with example: Turtle Wax Bug,Stain Tar Remover. You need towipe with no pressure though since seeds and particles in bird crap wil scrath the hell out of your clear coat.

Once removed you are faced with etching in the clear coat that 99% of the time can be removed with a high-speed polishing by a local pro detailer. Even sometimes by hand with a light rubbing compound.
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 11:04 AM
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A profressioal with a buffer can repair the damage if it hasn't etched completely hrough the clearcoat. Black cars are more prone to damage because the color sucks up heat and bakes the birdpoop into the paint more so than lighter cars. Carry a squirt bottle full of water and a soft clean rag to get it off as soon as you see it, but make sure that you've rinsed most of it off with the water first before wiping with the rag. Most bird droppings contain dirt and contaminants that will scratch your paint if you try and wipe it while it's dry.
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by MacMeager
Hi all -

I recently bought a black G37 coupe. I live right by the water and there are tons of birds. My car is getting quite a bit of attention from the birds. I washed my car just now and noticed that everywhere where the bird **** was, there is a mark that remains now matter how hard I scrub. The paint doesn't seem damaged (it is still completely smooth), but the paint appears to be slightly discolored, kind of frosty looking. Does anybody have any thoughts on this? Is there something I can do to remove this markings? This is super annoying. Thanks a lot everybody.

MM
1) Stop Rubbing - your putting light scratches and swirls in clear.

2) Whenever you the bird poop, remove with water and meguiars quik detailer as quickly as possible.

3) Purchase meguiars scratch-X, use a foam pad. You may need something more aggressive. You may be able to remove the etchings by hand, I suggest you goto meguiars forum on technique. This is very important because you do not want to do more damage or put more scratches in the paint.

4) After properly washing/claying the car, apply a quality wax. This will help prevent future damage from acid rain, bird etchings, etc...

5) Invest in a porter cable, pads, and some polishes. Learn how to properly do paint correction. The car may need a pass or two to remove light swirls, etchings, etc..

Good Luck, my OB coupe was beautiful when it was swirl, scratch, etch free. It was a real b*tch to maintain being that it was daily driver but it can be done.
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 12:01 PM
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The same thing happened to one of my old cars. Lucky for me, I have a good friend who moonlights as a professional auto detailer. He told me that sometimes bird crap is highly acidic and it can etch into the clearcoat and leave permanent marks.

The only way to fix it is to polish the clearcoat (and when I say polish, I mean you actually have to remove some of the clear) to get down to an undamaged portion. But you don't want to go too far into the clearcoat because it's not very thick in the first place.

He taught me how to do it using a dual action polisher and a light cutting compound with yellow foam pads. It's actually pretty easy to get perfect results once you see how it's done. It's very similar to swirl removal.
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 02:32 PM
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^^ Yep, yellow pad for the etching, light scratches and swirls
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