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Old Dec 4, 2019 | 09:52 PM
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Eibach or Swift Lowering Springs?

Hey guys new here, been stuck really trying to figure out what to do. I've been stuck deciding whether to pick the Eibach's or Swift's. Some information that could serve useful is I currently have a 2015 Q60s AWD coupe and have a motordyne e370. I live in a place that does have snowy winter seasons so the roads are pretty terrible in places. I want it low enough where it removes that ugly gap but not low enough where I have to constantly be worried about scrapping the exhaust. Just worried enough to be cautious on some bumps. With stock suspension I don't come close to scrapping so I know I have a lot of room to work with just don't know how much. As well Is the quality ultimately the same? Thanks again for anyone that helps!

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Old Dec 5, 2019 | 01:09 AM
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I have Swift 4N911 on my 14 Q60 AWD. When I first lowered it, it didn't look "low enough" to me. It has since settled and looks exactly the way I wanted it.
We have pretty bad winters here and very bad roads, but my car is a beast with DWS06 tires and the car isn't too low.
BTW I can go over speed bumps same speed as before. Not sure if that's apply to your exhaust setup.

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Old Dec 5, 2019 | 01:52 AM
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Thanks for the reply and photo! Appreciate it, how bad are the bumps? Did you need any camber arms? Ride quality shift too much from stock?
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Old Dec 5, 2019 | 05:28 AM
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I have swift on my G37xS and at times I would scrape my catalytic converters but only a few times varying on the speed bump. If it just a regular one it ain’t a problem, but some of these plazas be having mount Everest speed bumps which scrapes unless I go at an angle. As far as the camber arms, it various. Someone needed them but some didn’t, but I got front and rear camber arms. As far as the ride quality it’s about the same, it’s just when you hit bumps you feel it a bit more than stock. It also handles a lot better when taking corners, and less body roll.


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Old Dec 5, 2019 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by luniafreak
Thanks for the reply and photo! Appreciate it, how bad are the bumps? Did you need any camber arms? Ride quality shift too much from stock?
I run a staggered 20" wheel setup (stock wheels are 18" square with 50 series tires) and the backs are 295/30, so my car has pretty stiff sidewalls. Sharp impacts, like a pothole with a sharp corner, mis-aligned concrete panels, etc can have a pretty jarring effect. Normal bumps and holes that have been smoothed by traffic are fine. 99% of the time my car feels just like my previous 2016 GTI on OEM 18's. I think my tire setup contributes to the very rare sharp impact on the aforementioned road issues. Compared to my friend's Tesla Model 3 dual motor on 18's my ride is about the same. That's the only other car I can compare it too. It is much sportier than it was on 18" OEMs and stock suspension.

I keep my OEM 18" wheels for long road trips because you never know what you will run into on the road and I don't want to find out with the 20's.

As far as camber...I've had my wheels a year now. I do have obvious negative camber, never had it checked. My tires do not exhibit edge wear, so I fit into the majority of people on Swifts who can run without camber correction. However, I am going to do camber correction when I supercharge my car (get all the work done at once) because the negative camber makes my wheels look a very small bit "tucked".

I would keep camber correction as an option if you lower your car, you may prefer less negative camber. I'll try and post a camber shot later when I get home so you can see what you'll end up with.
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Old Dec 5, 2019 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Said Amir
I have swift on my G37xS and at times I would scrape my catalytic converters but only a few times varying on the speed bump. If it just a regular one it ain’t a problem, but some of these plazas be having mount Everest speed bumps which scrapes unless I go at an angle. As far as the camber arms, it various. Someone needed them but some didn’t, but I got front and rear camber arms. As far as the ride quality it’s about the same, it’s just when you hit bumps you feel it a bit more than stock. It also handles a lot better when taking corners, and less body roll.


Thank you! My car is also white so this gives me a better view/idea of what it would look like. Are you on 19” or 20”?
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Old Dec 5, 2019 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by takemorepills
I run a staggered 20" wheel setup (stock wheels are 18" square with 50 series tires) and the backs are 295/30, so my car has pretty stiff sidewalls. Sharp impacts, like a pothole with a sharp corner, mis-aligned concrete panels, etc can have a pretty jarring effect. Normal bumps and holes that have been smoothed by traffic are fine. 99% of the time my car feels just like my previous 2016 GTI on OEM 18's. I think my tire setup contributes to the very rare sharp impact on the aforementioned road issues. Compared to my friend's Tesla Model 3 dual motor on 18's my ride is about the same. That's the only other car I can compare it too. It is much sportier than it was on 18" OEMs and stock suspension.

I keep my OEM 18" wheels for long road trips because you never know what you will run into on the road and I don't want to find out with the 20's.

As far as camber...I've had my wheels a year now. I do have obvious negative camber, never had it checked. My tires do not exhibit edge wear, so I fit into the majority of people on Swifts who can run without camber correction. However, I am going to do camber correction when I supercharge my car (get all the work done at once) because the negative camber makes my wheels look a very small bit "tucked".

I would keep camber correction as an option if you lower your car, you may prefer less negative camber. I'll try and post a camber shot later when I get home so you can see what you'll end up with.


So since I have 19’s I probably wouldn’t have to worry as much as you? Want to be able to keep a size that will generally be utilized for most conditions. As well thank you, would definitely love to see that pic.
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Old Dec 5, 2019 | 02:35 PM
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Rim set up is 19x8.5 offset of 35. Tire set up is 245/40/19 all around. Like takemorepills said the car also does wonder around the road a bit, specially when it is not a perfect surface, but if you go under the car and look at your power steering from the driver side, you will notice a bolt on it, and i recently tightened it a bit and it did make the steering a bit heavy but not much, and it doesn't wonder around as much as it did before. By the way I would highly recommend getting the springs from ebay, you can always make counter offers and get them a bit cheaper that is what I did, also did the same for the front and rear camber arms.
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Old Dec 5, 2019 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Said Amir
Rim set up is 19x8.5 offset of 35. Tire set up is 245/40/19 all around. Like takemorepills said the car also does wonder around the road a bit, specially when it is not a perfect surface, but if you go under the car and look at your power steering from the driver side, you will notice a bolt on it, and i recently tightened it a bit and it did make the steering a bit heavy but not much, and it doesn't wonder around as much as it did before. By the way I would highly recommend getting the springs from ebay, you can always make counter offers and get them a bit cheaper that is what I did, also did the same for the front and rear camber arms.
My car doesn't wander around anymore (tramlining). When I acquired my car, it had OEM Dunlops on it and it would feel almost "darty" on the freeway, just pulling to one side or another.
DWS06 tires fixed that. When I researched tires, I checked what other DWS06 owners of other cars were saying, our cars aren't the only vehicles that "wander", many other "sporty" cars have this tendency too. Now my car drives straight as an arrow.
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Old Dec 5, 2019 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by takemorepills
My car doesn't wander around anymore (tramlining). When I acquired my car, it had OEM Dunlops on it and it would feel almost "darty" on the freeway, just pulling to one side or another.
DWS06 tires fixed that. When I researched tires, I checked what other DWS06 owners of other cars were saying, our cars aren't the only vehicles that "wander", many other "sporty" cars have this tendency too. Now my car drives straight as an arrow.
Need to upgrade my tires than
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Old Dec 5, 2019 | 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by takemorepills
My car doesn't wander around anymore (tramlining). When I acquired my car, it had OEM Dunlops on it and it would feel almost "darty" on the freeway, just pulling to one side or another.
DWS06 tires fixed that. When I researched tires, I checked what other DWS06 owners of other cars were saying, our cars aren't the only vehicles that "wander", many other "sporty" cars have this tendency too. Now my car drives straight as an arrow.
Looks like me as well. You guys really selling me on swifts, ultimately I figured swifts would be the best all round. Wondering if i'll ever see it afterwards and have the idea that it may have not been low enough. Thanks a lot for your suggestions!
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Old Dec 5, 2019 | 11:43 PM
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I thought I had better pics of my negative camber, but this is all I've got. It's not very obvious in these pics....


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