Adjusting camber / toe independently with SPC arms?

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Old Jun 18, 2019 | 09:46 PM
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Adjusting camber / toe independently with SPC arms?

So i've just installed the SPC camber arms and larger toe bolts over the weekend and taken the car for alignment today. I got it back and they claim they were unable to get the camber in line because the toe was also adjusted when he changed it. This makes absolutely no sense to me because I had thought the entire point of the adjustable length arm was to be able to adjust camber independently. Am I wrong here? I had thought that was the entire point of the arms / bolts.

There's a visible difference in rear camber on each side. I was considering manually adjusting the camber arm myself, assuming it won't affect the toe as well...

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Old Jun 18, 2019 | 10:17 PM
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did u elongate the toe bolt holes?
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Old Jun 18, 2019 | 10:32 PM
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did u elongate the toe bolt holes?

yup did that
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Old Jun 18, 2019 | 10:40 PM
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U sure u did it correctly? Maybe for some reason the guy couldn't rotate the bolt bc u didn't elongate enough?
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Old Jun 19, 2019 | 08:43 AM
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Something definitely wrong there, should be able to easily get in spec w/ camber & toe if everything is proper. How low are you dropped BTW?
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Old Jun 19, 2019 | 09:29 PM
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I'm sure I did it correctly. I tested an entire rotation of the cam bolt myself before bringing it into the shop.

Its dropped on Eibachs with a spring riser (coil spring isolator) in the rear. its honestly not very low....


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Old Jun 19, 2019 | 11:36 PM
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Maybe the shop tech isn't used to that type of adjusting setup or just didn't want to take the time to get that camber in spec. Or did they happen to use the original toe bolts perhaps?
With that drop there's no way they shouldn't be able to get both parameters in spec (assuming all the parts are installed & functioning properly).
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Old Jun 21, 2019 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by blnewt
Maybe the shop tech isn't used to that type of adjusting setup or just didn't want to take the time to get that camber in spec. Or did they happen to use the original toe bolts perhaps?
With that drop there's no way they shouldn't be able to get both parameters in spec (assuming all the parts are installed & functioning properly).
No, i installed the arms and toe bolts myself before bringing into the shop. I also tested a full rotation of the cam bolts myself to be sure there was no binding with the bolts.

If the setting is truly independent I should be able to just manually adjust the camber without affecting anything else, right?
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Old Jun 21, 2019 | 08:58 PM
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no theres a reason why toe bolts and elongating the hole is required with the camber arms. the more positive camber needs to be adjusted the more the toe needs to be adjusted with it. theyre all connected to same "wheel hub". u adjust one then u gotta adjust the other as well. but considering how minimal ur drop is i dont see why the tech couldnt get it in spec with the mods to the toe bolt if everything was done correctly

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Old Jun 21, 2019 | 09:20 PM
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Oh i see. I'll leave it alone then I suppose since the toe is fine. It still does drive fine.

Is there an adjustable bolt on the spring bucket as well? I didn't notice.
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Old Jun 21, 2019 | 10:02 PM
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the spring bucket is the toe arm. the toe bolt is attached to the spring bucket. is that wat u mean?
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Old Jun 21, 2019 | 10:41 PM
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Wait what? I used the new cam bolt for the SPC arm, not the spring bucket.
Now I'm thinking i messed up? This isn't my pic but it shows both. I used the new bolt on the new arm. Didn't touch the circled part to the right on the spring bucket at all.
Actually, reading some more I think I did screw up.. I need to probably order another set of bolts and do the spring bucket correctly then...

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Edit, but actually, maybe I should just leave it alone? They did get the toe back into correct spec regardless.


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Old Jun 21, 2019 | 11:05 PM
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Yes you did elongate the wrong bolt slot, but no fear, elongate the "true" toe slot, take it back to the shop and have it readjusted. Even though you elongated the wrong slot you can still use the old camber bolts in the longer slot, just crank them down and use the camber arms to set camber. You're much better off doing that than running all that uneven and excess camber.

At least you figured out what the issue was.
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Old Jun 21, 2019 | 11:15 PM
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Oh yeah I didn't think of that. I can just swap the bolts rather than order new ones. Alright, this makes much more sense now. I remember wondering how it was supposed to work when I was installing it since it was all on the same arm. Duh.

Still think I will need to find another shop. These guys really did not want to work on my car AT ALL. They kept saying its lowered and so it will never be correct.
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