Tein Basis vs. Koni adj. vs. Bilstein B16 (PSS10) for sedan?
#33
So you have tested the ride of both of these suspensions in a sedan? Please tell me more.
#34
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Took a shot at adjusting the rear Koni shocks on car yesterday. It's a narrow window, and you're flying blind with a 2mm allen wrench, but once you get oriented on where the adjustment window is, it's doable.
You can see the reflection of the adjustment window circled in the mirror, as well as the allen wrench. There isn't much resistance, so it's easy to adjust.
I'm now 2 sweeps stiffer than before
You can see the reflection of the adjustment window circled in the mirror, as well as the allen wrench. There isn't much resistance, so it's easy to adjust.
I'm now 2 sweeps stiffer than before
#36
Took a shot at adjusting the rear Koni shocks on car yesterday. It's a narrow window, and you're flying blind with a 2mm allen wrench, but once you get oriented on where the adjustment window is, it's doable.
You can see the reflection of the adjustment window circled in the mirror, as well as the allen wrench. There isn't much resistance, so it's easy to adjust.
I'm now 2 sweeps stiffer than before
You can see the reflection of the adjustment window circled in the mirror, as well as the allen wrench. There isn't much resistance, so it's easy to adjust.
I'm now 2 sweeps stiffer than before
#37
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I'm not that up on coilover designs. What would be the ideal on-car adjustment technique?
It's really not as bad as it looks. The time consuming part is getting your car up on jack stands. At least it's the rear, so it's easy enough to just jack the car up from the rear differential and slide jack stands under it.
How often would you anticipate adjusting the dampers?
Front's are easy. I dialed in one rotation from full soft to go along with the two sweeps I did yesterday.
#38
Yes kw autocorrect is a pain. 1 vs 3 is entry vs more adjustment. If you're after basic ride control and no to maybe a few autocross events get the 1 else 3. Their warranty is so much easier than bilsteins
#39
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Best design for adjustment has the adjuster(s) at the bottom of the shock for ease of access. This isn't feasible for upside-down dampers, so adjuster(s) are at top. This is no problem for the front dampers since the fender usually has a hole the adjuster can poke through. The rear is the problem. Some dampers have a cable to snake down behind the seats or through the package tray to reach the adjuster. Tein offers small electric motors to do the same thing.
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#40
I'm not that up on coilover designs. What would be the ideal on-car adjustment technique?
It's really not as bad as it looks. The time consuming part is getting your car up on jack stands. At least it's the rear, so it's easy enough to just jack the car up from the rear differential and slide jack stands under it.
How often would you anticipate adjusting the dampers?
Front's are easy. I dialed in one rotation from full soft to go along with the two sweeps I did yesterday.
It's really not as bad as it looks. The time consuming part is getting your car up on jack stands. At least it's the rear, so it's easy enough to just jack the car up from the rear differential and slide jack stands under it.
How often would you anticipate adjusting the dampers?
Front's are easy. I dialed in one rotation from full soft to go along with the two sweeps I did yesterday.
Speaking of that, KW, Bilstein, Koni, Tein, etc. really only make suspensions for the G coupe or 370Z so it will still be a bit of a compromise.
I called up Tirerack to ask them some questions about the Bilstein B16 (PSS10) suspension they have listed for the G sedan. The guy knew absolutely nothing about the suspension and said they don't test the suspension there or have anyone working there who was very knowledgeable about the suspensions. Weird since they are pretty sharp when it comes to wheels. He did tell me that it was a really hard race suspension and not really for the street. I thought that was odd as it is listed on their site under "Premium, Performance Street."
So then I called up Bilstein and they knew a bit more about the suspension (thankfully), but said they did not have a B16 kit for the sedan listed so I would have no warranty. Sure enough, Tirerack has the same part number listed for the sedan as they do for a 370Z coupe. He said just the opposite about the ride quality and that it was their street kit so it should ride decent on the road and ok for track use. It blows my mind that the people working at these companies want you to fork out $1,600 for a suspension and literally have no idea how it rides.
#43
I am working on getting a used set of KW V3 coilovers. The guy selling them says they ride better than stock on the new roads that the seams are raised and most cars bounce on when they hit them. Can anyone else with this suspension on a sedan vouch for that or tell me if it is possible to reach the rear upper adjusters with the rear of the car raised up? Thanks!