Best suspension setup for a daily driver with some track use?
02-03-2018, 11:06 AM
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Best suspension setup for a daily driver with some track use?
hey everyone,
been browsing this forum quite a bit this past week to try and get some info but couldn’t specifically find what I was looking for. I have a ‘14 q60s (so basically a g37s coupe) and I daily it. I also have tracked it once and plan on doing that about 3-6 times a year. Anyways, I’m looking for a good suspension setup that won’t break the bank, won’t be too stiff for dd use, and will be able to handle at the track. I am between KW V1s and just getting Koni yellows with swift sport springs at the moment. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks!
nathan
been browsing this forum quite a bit this past week to try and get some info but couldn’t specifically find what I was looking for. I have a ‘14 q60s (so basically a g37s coupe) and I daily it. I also have tracked it once and plan on doing that about 3-6 times a year. Anyways, I’m looking for a good suspension setup that won’t break the bank, won’t be too stiff for dd use, and will be able to handle at the track. I am between KW V1s and just getting Koni yellows with swift sport springs at the moment. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks!
nathan
02-03-2018, 03:40 PM
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There is no such thing for the G. There are a lot of coil-overs out there but most are built to a price point which compromises their track capability. Buyers want slam, not supple damping. Or, the dampers are made for the Z which causes a droppy butt problem when installed on the G.
Look to European companies for real track-capable dampers. And check out the coil-over redux thread for a nearly exhaustive list of coil-overs out there. The thread indicates sedan but they all fit the coupe, too.
I just stumbled upon MeisterR, I just might buy a set as I track my sedan a bit. My 2nd choice would be Aragosta. They are out of Japan but appear to have AST internals. I want to like the Bilstein PSS10 but balk at the progressive-rate springs in the rear.
HTH.
Look to European companies for real track-capable dampers. And check out the coil-over redux thread for a nearly exhaustive list of coil-overs out there. The thread indicates sedan but they all fit the coupe, too.
I just stumbled upon MeisterR, I just might buy a set as I track my sedan a bit. My 2nd choice would be Aragosta. They are out of Japan but appear to have AST internals. I want to like the Bilstein PSS10 but balk at the progressive-rate springs in the rear.
HTH.
02-05-2018, 08:46 PM
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And to compound the problem, a lot of suspensions can be tuned to suit your personal driving style, other mods you have on the car, the specific tracks that you go to, and anything in between.
I think you will need to be more specific in exactly what you want to even begin to lead you in a direction which will suit your specific needs.
I daily my car (30K+ miles/year) and also attend multiple track days each year. I use a cheap set of Taiwanese single adjustable coils (your low-mid level BC Racing/Megan/equivalent), and they handle and ride fine. No, they're not KWV3s, but at the price point and my frequency of use, it is acceptable. They are a 14kg/mm front / 8kg/mm progressive in the rear.
That being said, I am on stock sway bars, mildly lowered, 0 toe, more camber, and have wider tires all around (with way more tire in the front) that are also way stickier than stock. I also have my suspension set up for stiffer compression/rebound in the front (they're single adjustable, so they do both at the same time) and relatively soft in the rear. Despite what you would think (massive understeer), it works for me and my driving style on the track and results in a car that I can point at a corner and put my foot the floor without any hesitation.
There's plenty of various 370z threads that try to address the various needs of people, and also those they dive deeply into the world of roll centers, valving for various coilovers, the pros/cons of monotube vs. multitube dampers, etc.
What I'm trying to say is that you need to decide what you want to get exactly out of your car, your budget, and what you expect your car to do. Then we can suggest your way into something that fits that criteria.
I think you will need to be more specific in exactly what you want to even begin to lead you in a direction which will suit your specific needs.
I daily my car (30K+ miles/year) and also attend multiple track days each year. I use a cheap set of Taiwanese single adjustable coils (your low-mid level BC Racing/Megan/equivalent), and they handle and ride fine. No, they're not KWV3s, but at the price point and my frequency of use, it is acceptable. They are a 14kg/mm front / 8kg/mm progressive in the rear.
That being said, I am on stock sway bars, mildly lowered, 0 toe, more camber, and have wider tires all around (with way more tire in the front) that are also way stickier than stock. I also have my suspension set up for stiffer compression/rebound in the front (they're single adjustable, so they do both at the same time) and relatively soft in the rear. Despite what you would think (massive understeer), it works for me and my driving style on the track and results in a car that I can point at a corner and put my foot the floor without any hesitation.
There's plenty of various 370z threads that try to address the various needs of people, and also those they dive deeply into the world of roll centers, valving for various coilovers, the pros/cons of monotube vs. multitube dampers, etc.
What I'm trying to say is that you need to decide what you want to get exactly out of your car, your budget, and what you expect your car to do. Then we can suggest your way into something that fits that criteria.
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02-10-2018, 02:05 PM
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There is no such thing for the G. There are a lot of coil-overs out there but most are built to a price point which compromises their track capability. Buyers want slam, not supple damping. Or, the dampers are made for the Z which causes a droppy butt problem when installed on the G.
Look to European companies for real track-capable dampers. And check out the coil-over redux thread for a nearly exhaustive list of coil-overs out there. The thread indicates sedan but they all fit the coupe, too.
I just stumbled upon MeisterR, I just might buy a set as I track my sedan a bit. My 2nd choice would be Aragosta. They are out of Japan but appear to have AST internals. I want to like the Bilstein PSS10 but balk at the progressive-rate springs in the rear.
HTH.
Look to European companies for real track-capable dampers. And check out the coil-over redux thread for a nearly exhaustive list of coil-overs out there. The thread indicates sedan but they all fit the coupe, too.
I just stumbled upon MeisterR, I just might buy a set as I track my sedan a bit. My 2nd choice would be Aragosta. They are out of Japan but appear to have AST internals. I want to like the Bilstein PSS10 but balk at the progressive-rate springs in the rear.
HTH.
02-10-2018, 02:23 PM
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Though based in England, they have an office (in Montgomery) 60 miles from me and they make all their own parts. No Asian internals for me, thank you very much. While they have a "low-cost" version at $1k for the V36, it's the Z34 damper and they spec 10k/8k rates which are just too soft for the heavier V36. They offer custom dampers, too, and that's what I'm going to get. Rates of 12k/10k and damping to suit.
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For anyone still interested, I ended up biting the bullet and went for the KWV3s back in March of 2018. Since then, I've had two shocks blow seals (one in the front one in the rear). Thought the first time around was a fluke deal but it just happened again. Buyer beware.
12-17-2019, 09:10 PM
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For anyone still interested, I ended up biting the bullet and went for the KWV3s back in March of 2018. Since then, I've had two shocks blow seals (one in the front one in the rear). Thought the first time around was a fluke deal but it just happened again. Buyer beware.