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Old Nov 3, 2014 | 10:10 PM
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body shop paint matching problems

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I have a 2010 g37's Obsidian black. Awhile back i scratched my quarter panel driving into the garage.. I've dealt with two different body shops so far.

The first shop tried 3 times. every time the color was never black or dark enough it was especially noticeable in direct sunlight. after the 3rd time i gave up on them.

2nd shop pretty much same issue not black or dark enough. They've also tried 2 times so far and same thing. the shop is still willing to work with me which is good.

I do know both shops use PPG paint. I know we have the correct color code KH3 and have the right shade down. Even the sample color chips look darker than the actual finished product. I just don't know wth is going on.. I was wondering if anyone has had a similar experience..
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Old Nov 3, 2014 | 11:22 PM
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Not at all proud to admit I did this little number to my car, approx 6 months from rolling off the lot

BUT I am proud that I shopped around and found a great body shop that I continue to use of paint work (mods)

They reconstructed the wheel well perfectly and blended the rear bumper, rear door, and rear quarter panel to a shade indistinguishable from the original finish.

(Not bragging just saying OB paint is certainly matchable)

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Old Nov 4, 2014 | 12:14 AM
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OB is certainly a matcheable paint color. Either the shop you are using isn't capable or your eyes are playing tricks on you. I might try going to another shop.
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Old Nov 4, 2014 | 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by STownSaint
Not at all proud to admit I did this little number to my car, approx 6 months from rolling off the lot

BUT I am proud that I shopped around and found a great body shop that I continue to use of paint work (mods)

They reconstructed the wheel well perfectly and blended the rear bumper, rear door, and rear quarter panel to a shade indistinguishable from the original finish.

(Not bragging just saying OB paint is certainly matchable)

Mine was on the same exact spot!
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bwf...ew?usp=sharing

Yea i know it shouldn't be as difficult as it's been. I just wonder if i should have another shop possibly mix the paint and have the current guy do the labor. Or let him keep trying to get the mix down.. I just don't know the best route to take.
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Old Nov 4, 2014 | 12:30 AM
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Nice Maserati GranTurismo BTW!
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Old Nov 4, 2014 | 12:50 AM
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Nice Maserati GranTurismo BTW!
Lol i wish that was mine.. but it was at a body shop i went in to get a quote at.
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Old Nov 4, 2014 | 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Yadayada
OB is certainly a matcheable paint color. Either the shop you are using isn't capable or your eyes are playing tricks on you. I might try going to another shop.
Perhaps the shop isn't capable I just hope i can get it resolved any way possible.. I'm pretty sure the color is off.. the shop guy agreed its a tad bit lighter. I even gave it some time and maybe my eyes would adjust but in certain direct sunlight angles its definitely off. I've lagged on it for some time because its only noticeable in direct light. But I know i shouldn't lag too long in case the guy leaves or something comes up.

but just the over the weekend. My Sis that has an 08 g35s in OB just got into a frontal accident will need a new bumper, hood, and fender right now she's shopping around for a shop.. I'm really hoping the next shop can get it right.. and if they can they can advise my situation..
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Old Nov 4, 2014 | 09:04 AM
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Your eyes & brain can play tricks. I'd suggest next time you are out, like at a gas station or somewhere, ask a complete stranger to look at your car & see if they can spot the difference. If they can maybe consider a shop that uses Sikkens paint.
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Old Nov 4, 2014 | 02:51 PM
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Your eyes & brain can play tricks. I'd suggest next time you are out, like at a gas station or somewhere, ask a complete stranger to look at your car & see if they can spot the difference. If they can maybe consider a shop that uses Sikkens paint.
I really tried to believe in that and i really hoped that was the case. I gave it many chances and the same result.. i tried living with for almost 6 months. The paint does not sparkle it kind of looks like a dark greyish primer and also not deep enough black.

I went over to shop again this morning we compared some more chips and hes going to spray some samples again. hes kind of out of idea's except possibly switching to dupont brand or trying a diff clear. weather he said could of been a factor. I'm also out of ideas

At the same time i'm hoping to see how my sister's car turns out. if it turns out good i'm sure they would be able to give some insight.
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Old Nov 4, 2014 | 06:24 PM
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I have a pearl white sedan and I was having this same problem with my front bumper. WAY too white the first two times. The 3rd time they got it very close. Their paint rep used a "camera" that magnifies the paint so that he could match it perfectly. They also blended with the front fenders to make the edges not seem as harsh. Even if they get the color right, different panels look different and may have faded slightly (especially black). Make sure the next shop does these two things (camera to match and blend with neighboring panels).
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Old Nov 4, 2014 | 07:17 PM
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I just had a similar boo boo to STownSaint. I actually found a body shop that is used by the local infiniti dealer and it came out pretty good. Might be worth finding out who the local dealership uses and then do some research on those guys. Good luck man, I was devastated when I scuffed the paint on my rear door/panel so I know the feeling
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Old Nov 4, 2014 | 07:41 PM
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Let me make it simple for you. Without blending it most likely won't match. Assuming you used the same paint (mixed from the same batch just split in two) and use two different guns it may not match. Search paint flop to get a better idea.

On top of that, clear coat isn't really clear and it is reactive, going on top of existing paint thats changed from sitting in the sun and you have a real dilemma. Here's something else for you. Its not unusual for paint from the factory not to match.
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Old Nov 4, 2014 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by blackfunk
Let me make it simple for you. Without blending it most likely won't match. Assuming you used the same paint (mixed from the same batch just split in two) and use two different guns it may not match. Search paint flop to get a better idea.

On top of that, clear coat isn't really clear and it is reactive, going on top of existing paint thats changed from sitting in the sun and you have a real dilemma. Here's something else for you. Its not unusual for paint from the factory not to match.
This is so true. Look at the difference in color of our bumpers to the fenders. Ridiculous.
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Old Nov 5, 2014 | 03:54 AM
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On top of that, clear coat isn't really clear and it is reactive, going on top of existing paint thats changed from sitting in the sun and you have a real dilemma. Here's something else for you. Its not unusual for paint from the factory not to match.[/QUOTE]

Could buffing the paint after painting affect anything? Ive seen pictures from the shop inside the paint booth and the color looked so dark and black.. But then the finished product looks completely different.. It looks so whitish like a glowing haze i wish it were easier to describe.. But all other parts of the car in the same light just look straight up black, no haze. I agree I've seem oem hondas not matching from factory especially silver or greyish before. I really believe in my case something is going on..

I know for a fact my front bumper was repainted by previous owner he disclosed it to me. Its a perfect match too! I also got in touch with that shop they had very little insight to share unfortunately.. They also use ppg.

It would be a little more acceptable if the finished product would at least look similar to the chip samples but it doesn't. I just don't get why it at least doesn't look like the chip samples at all.. SMH.. To me its not the matching the color is the problem. but the mix not matching the chips
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Old Nov 5, 2014 | 11:12 AM
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are you only going to cheap shops? This should not be hard. White is the hardest color to match, not black.

Out here in LA we can get away with shopping around a little bit, but body shop service is always "you get what you pay for" kind of service.

I always tell people, a body part is about $300 each piece. Lips and smaller pieces like spoilers are half the price at $150. Anything less than that, I would advise you to double and triple check their work/reviews.

Also pay with an Amex if you have one. They will fight for your money back.
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