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Old Oct 21, 2022 | 11:02 PM
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2010 g37x electrical problems

Can I contact anyone I have a few questions on my 2010 g37x PROBLEMS
I picked it up for cheap from a guy he says it was dead sitting for awhile and he tried changing the battery now the only light on the dash that flashes on is the red security light on the right of the dash.
I checked all the fuses and positive terminal fuses and they’re good.
The doors lock/unlock with the key and when I put the key in the key fob nothing pops up on the dash only the push to start lights up on OFF. (CANT GO IN ACCESORIES)
Replaced key fob battery also
I believe it could be the steering lock module? Or a blown ecm somehow.
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Old Oct 21, 2022 | 11:14 PM
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For some reason, the push start button would not react to me pushing it at all, and the car wouldn’t start. Even when I put the key fob in the slot left of the steering wheel, it wouldn’t even signal that my key is in it.

It wouldn’t even let me switch it to ACC or ON position. The typical orange lights that show which position the ignition is in we’re not on either.

I also noticed that on my dashboard, the red securityindicator warning light was flashing. It looks like a car with a key symbol inside it. That was the only light I had showing on my dashboard.

When I would press the lock button on my key fob, the car would lock but the typical horn that comes after it wouldn’t make a sound.

The door button to lock and unlock my car still works while i’m standing next to the car with my key fob, so I don’t think it’s an issue of my key fob being disconnected from the car.

When I click the alarm button on my key, the alarm does not go off at all. I even checked to make sure the horn was still working, and it is.

I searched everywhere online, some people said it could be something with the BCM, in which I checked the BCM fuse in the fuse box to the left of the battery, and it was fine. Some people said to leave the battery completely disconnected for 10 minutes. That didn’t work.
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Old Oct 22, 2022 | 01:14 AM
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The first thing people usually say in here is to check the passenger footwell for water. The sunroof drain which runs down the A-pillar on that side is notorious for leaking water onto your BCM and cause multiple weirdness.

Next spot to check would be the IPDM near the battery. That's another place that you don't want to be getting wet. There are also many fuses in that box which you may need to check through as several of the car's systems are powered from there.

Let us know what you find.
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Old Oct 22, 2022 | 01:18 AM
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Is it okay if I contact you through text messages? I’m still pretty new and have some more questions. I checked and I didn’t see any water in the passenger area but I will verify in the morning.
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Old Oct 22, 2022 | 09:22 AM
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The RED SECURITY light flashing is normal. If it was solid then that would be a issue. Again, FLASHING is NORMAL.

Do the headlights turn you turn the light switch to ON, not AUTO? Rear BRAKE lights when you push the pedal down?
Does the clock work? Seats move?
Are you able to turn the steering wheel or is it locked?

It is a 2010. Based on the symptoms you provided thus far, the ESCL (steering lock) likely failed. And being that the car sat unused for a extended period of time, gives more indication that the ESCL has seized (the grease used in these modules was the issue- hardening/ oozing).

There are a ton of threads on here (and other Nissan car forums) about this issue. You can try tapping on the module to see if it miraculously unlocks. If it does then you can disable the ESCL while the engine is running and forget that issue forever. If it does NOT release, then you will have to look into either replacing the ESCL (which is expensive) or the possibility of using a emulator.

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Old Oct 22, 2022 | 01:10 PM
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The RED SECURITY light flashing is normal. If it was solid then that would be a issue. Again, FLASHING is NORMAL.

Do the headlights turn you turn the light switch to ON, not AUTO? Rear BRAKE lights when you push the pedal down?
Does the clock work? Seats move?
Are you able to turn the steering wheel or is it locked?

It is a 2010. Based on the symptoms you provided thus far, the ESCL (steering lock) likely failed. And being that the car sat unused for a extended period of time, gives more indication that the ESCL has seized (the grease used in these modules was the issue- hardening/ oozing).

There are a ton of threads on here (and other Nissan car forums) about this issue. You can try tapping on the module to see if it miraculously unlocks. If it does then you can disable the ESCL while the engine is running and forget that issue forever. If it does NOT release, then you will have to look into either replacing the ESCL (which is expensive) or the possibility of using a emulator.
I tried tapping on it and nothing. Headlights turn on not the right front I think the bulb might be burnt. Brake lights turn on with pressing the brake pedal. I will have to check on the clock but seats do move. The steering wheel was locked I got the car into ON position somehow radio worked, engine fans turned on but I couldn’t get it back to the OFF position. I am able to turn the steering wheel while the car is off now but it was locked before. The vehicle will not go back into ON also when I put the key into the fob no indicator comes on the dash everting is blank just the security light.
When I press hazards I see the blinkers on the outside but no blinkers on the dash.
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Old Oct 22, 2022 | 01:42 PM
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Anyone know if I take the ESCL out of my buddies 2011 g37x and put it in my 2010 g37x, Turn on the car and pull the fuse and put my old ESCL module in if everything will be okay?
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No.

Once your put your old ESCL back in, the car will be locked again. YOUR module must be UNLOCKED before you pull the fuse. The ESCL does two things:
  • PHYSICALLY locks the steering wheel, and
  • Sends a GO or NO GO signal to the BCM to start the car.
When LOCKED, the ESCL send a NO GO signal to the BCM. This is where your car sits now.
When UNLOCKED, the ESCL sends a GO signal to the BCM and the car starts.

Puling the fuse when the ESCL is UNLOCKED, prevents the ESCL solenoid from LOCKING and essentially puts the ESCL in a permanent GO condition.

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Old Oct 22, 2022 | 03:22 PM
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No.

Once your put your old ESCL back in, the car will be locked again. YOUR module must be UNLOCKED before you pull the fuse. The ESCL does two things:
  • PHYSICALLY locks the steering wheel, and
  • Sends a GO or NO GO signal to the BCM to start the car.
When LOCKED, the ESCL send a NO GO signal to the BCM. This is where your car sits now.
When UNLOCKED, the ESCL sends a GO signal to the BCM and the car starts.

Puling the fuse when the ESCL is UNLOCKED, prevents the ESCL solenoid from LOCKING and essentially puts the ESCL in a permanent GO condition.
The steering wheel is able to turn while the car is fully off. It was locked before somehow I got it unlocked. Could this still be the ESCL?
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Old Oct 22, 2022 | 03:52 PM
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Yes, the ESCL could still be a issue. There just is no way to know the condition of the circuit boards inside the module.

If the wheel is currently unlocked, it should lock again when you lock the car. If it doesn't then the ESCL is not responding.

There are several things you can try. This post has a few suggestions (and video).

I would put the key fob into the slot and keep beating the hell out of the ESCL with a rubber mallet while repeatedly pressing the START button. You might get lucky. If not, and the steering wheel is unlocked, you could consider the ESCL emulator.

Unfortunately, there just is no easy fix once the module dies. This is why EVERYONE should pull that damn fuse while the car is on! It is the only guaranteed insurance policy against this issue.

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Old Oct 24, 2022 | 09:40 AM
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For thread continuity, OP asked me via PM, on how to remove the ESCL and what options are there for replacements. My response to him:

"This video shows how to remove the module from a 370Z. It is the same for all Nissans and for the G37.

All early Nissan and Infiniti used the same ESCL module until around 2011/2012. It doesn't matter if you have a Coupe or Sedan, AWD or RWD.

I would first try removing the module and see if you can get the mechanism to work. If not, I would see if there was a used one on eBay or maybe a emulator. I would try for a used unit first- you just need the car to start one time so you can pull the fuse while the engine is running.

Brand new from Infiniti the module will run you, AT LEAST, $700 (discountinfinitiparts- ESCL)."

***Folks- to anyone reading this- if you own a 2008-2012 please consider pulling the STEER LOCK fuse in the IPDM while your engine is running (ON). While this demon may never impact you, if it ever does it will leave you stranded and take a huge bite out of your wallet. Pulling this fuse permanently assures this issue will never have a chance to strike. Just my 10¢... take it for what you will...

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Old Oct 24, 2022 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ILM-NC G37S
For thread continuity, OP asked me via PM, on how to remove the ESCL and what options are there for replacements. My response to him:

"This video shows how to remove the module from a 370Z. It is the same for all Nissans and for the G37. video

All early Nissan and Infiniti used the same ESCL module until around 2011/2012. It doesn't matter if you have a Coupe or Sedan, AWD or RWD.

I would first try removing the module and see if you can get the mechanism to work. If not, I would see if there was a used one on eBay or maybe a emulator. I would try for a used unit first- you just need the car to start one time so you can pull the fuse while the engine is running.

Brand new from Infiniti the module will run you, AT LEAST, $700 (discountinfinitiparts- ESCL)."

***Folks- to anyone reading this- if you own a 2008-2012 please consider pulling the STEER LOCK fuse in the IPDM while your engine is running (ON). While this demon may never impact you, if it ever does it will leave you stranded and take a huge bite out of your wallet. Pulling this fuse permanently assures this issue will never have a chance to strike. Just my 10¢... take it for what you will...



This is the one from the videos.

This is how it looks in my car

I’m very new to infinitis and really can’t find a way to get it removed. And I’m wondering if the bolts are above it someway? The video looks super easy to remove but mine is like positioned differently.
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Originally Posted by ILM-NC G37S
to anyone reading this- if you own a 2008-2012 please consider pulling the STEER LOCK fuse in the IPDM while your engine is running (ON). While this demon may never impact you, if it ever does it will leave you stranded and take a huge bite out of your wallet. Pulling this fuse permanently assures this issue will never have a chance to strike. Just my 10¢... take it for what you will...
The 2013 G37 isn't affected?
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... can’t find a way to get it removed. And I’m wondering if the bolts are above it someway? The video looks super easy to remove but mine is like positioned differently.
There are two anti-theft "breakaway" bolts that hold the module to the column. These bolts will not have a head where you can easily remove them. It will be VERY difficult to the get them out. Most folks use a small chisel and hammer to loosen them while others use a small dremel-type tool to cut a notch in the top of the bolt and unscrew it out that way. Thankfully these bolts are not super-tight so it should come out easily once you get them broken loose.
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The 2013 G37 isn't affected?
Technically, no. But, because Nissan fumbled this issue- like many- it created much confusion as to when Nissan initiated the parts revision to remove the physical locking portion of the module and went strictly electronic. At least Nissan addressed the issue- eventually. Infiniti ignored it (like the dash pad issue). From a previous post I made:

"The original issue with the ESCL was that "too much grease" was used in the manufacturing process. Over a short time, this grease leaked onto the printed circuit board which ultimately "fried" the module. Nissan's answer, for those affected vehicles, was to replace the ESCL (Lock) with a ESCB (Box) module (p/n: 48708-9N00A). This module handled all the NATS/IVIS functions that the ESCL did but did NOT mechanically lock the steering wheel. At the time the module was ≈$60 vs. the $500 ESCL.

While this issue technically only affected 2009/2010 models, it stands to reason that some of those faulty parts were still in the bin and ended up in some 2011's- depends on the cars build date, perhaps. IIRC, there are a couple of posts on the forum from members with 2011 ESCL failures."

It is simple to check. With car OFF and LOCKED, are you able to turn the steering wheel? And/Or do you hear a loud "clank" noise when you press the START button?

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Old Oct 24, 2022 | 05:03 PM
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There are two anti-theft "breakaway" bolts that hold the module to the column. These bolts will not have a head where you can easily remove them. It will be VERY difficult to the get them out. Most folks use a small chisel and hammer to loosen them while others use a small dremel-type tool to cut a notch in the top of the bolt and unscrew it out that way. Thankfully these bolts are not super-tight so it should come out easily once you get them broken loose.

Technically, no. But, because Nissan fumbled this issue- like many- it created much confusion as to when Nissan initiated the parts revision to remove the physical locking portion of the module and went strictly electronic. At least Nissan addressed the issue- eventually. Infiniti ignored it (like the dash pad issue). From a previous post I made:

"The original issue with the ESCL was that "too much grease" was used in the manufacturing process. Over a short time, this grease leaked onto the printed circuit board which ultimately "fried" the module. Nissan's answer, for those affected vehicles, was to replace the ESCL (Lock) with a ESCB (Box) module (p/n: 48708-9N00A). This module handled all the NATS/IVIS functions that the ESCL did but did NOT mechanically lock the steering wheel. At the time the module was ≈$60 vs. the $500 ESCL.

While this issue technically only affected 2009/2010 models, it stands to reason that some of those faulty parts were still in the bin and ended up in some 2011's- depends on the cars build date, perhaps. IIRC, there are a couple of posts on the forum from members with 2011 ESCL failures."

It is simple to check. With car OFF and LOCKED, are you able to turn the steering wheel? And/Or do you hear a loud "clank" noise when you press the START button?
I think I may have a bigger issue now. I forgot to put on the plastic coverings above the battery and it rained pretty hard last night. Now I noticed the passenger floor is wet and the car now doesn’t unlock or lock with the key only when I press the buttons on the inside door. Nothing on the dash not even the security light flashing. The car doesn’t recognize the key when I put it in the fob the OFF on the push to start lights up and then turns off. I even put my buddies key in and the OFF flashed on then turned back off.
I might be getting it towed to Infiniti.
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