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Stealth install, almost finished

Old Nov 15, 2008 | 08:28 PM
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awesome product... DLS isgreat and i love audiocontrol! love the stealth look too, always better IMO
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Old Nov 16, 2008 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by fcarpio
I don't think I did. I am not even sure what that is.
The OEM HU unit sends out a balanced signal. Your amp either has to be able to accept a balanced signal or one must use a balance to unbalance coverter. If theye just threw RCA's on the signal wires then you will all types of horribly irritating noises.
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Old Nov 16, 2008 | 11:19 PM
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Sick set up bro.
But it only comes second to elite's set up!
Please post a link to "Elite's" setup. I would like to see it.
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 08:33 PM
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 10:43 PM
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that's sick!
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Old Nov 17, 2008 | 11:02 PM
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all done yourself?
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by dillyyo
The OEM HU unit sends out a balanced signal. Your amp either has to be able to accept a balanced signal or one must use a balance to unbalance coverter. If theye just threw RCA's on the signal wires then you will all types of horribly irritating noises.
I just fixed the noise problem, the volume was way too high on the PXA-H701. I touched all my gains (PXA, AMPS, and LOC) so they are all out of whack now. But no noise.
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Old Nov 18, 2008 | 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by fcarpio
I just fixed the noise problem, the volume was way too high on the PXA-H701. I touched all my gains (PXA, AMPS, and LOC) so they are all out of whack now. But no noise.
Ahhhh, lovely when it's simple, right! Now set that gain structure up properly!
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 02:13 AM
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that is a awesome install man for sure. did you totally remove all the factory speakers aswell or did you leave them in?
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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 12:51 PM
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all done yourself?
I wish. I do not have all the know how or the time to get involved in a project like this.
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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 12:59 PM
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that is a awesome install man for sure. did you totally remove all the factory speakers aswell or did you leave them in?
Yes, I did replace the fronts for a set of the L831's from here:

http://www.hybrid-audio.com/legatia_three_way.htm

I also have no rear fill, it destroys my imaging. The factory rear speakers are disconnected.

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Old Nov 22, 2008 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by fcarpio
Yes, I did replace the fronts for a set of the L831's from here:

http://www.hybrid-audio.com/legatia_three_way.htm

I also have no rear fill, it destroys my imaging. The factory rear speakers are disconnected.
Frank-

What are your crossover points for the the L3. Have been thinking about going with a cone for my midrange since I would like a lower crossover than 475+. My concerns would be sufficient output in the 200 to 500 hz range. Any critiquing about staging, imaging, output dynamics would be much appreciated.
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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by dillyyo
Frank-

What are your crossover points for the the L3. Have been thinking about going with a cone for my midrange since I would like a lower crossover than 475+. My concerns would be sufficient output in the 200 to 500 hz range. Any critiquing about staging, imaging, output dynamics would be much appreciated.
I have the L3 at 160HZ to 7.1KHz (most of the time ) per Scott Buwalda. Imaging is pretty good, but it must be a combination of the speakers and the time alignment feature on the PXA. The L3 thrives in your range. Right now I think I still have finally some "minor" tuning to do, I have them almost where I want them and they sound pretty clean. They even make my U2 CDs sound good.

Maybe we should have an RTA party the next time you drive to SoFla.

FC

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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 09:37 PM
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Maybe we should have an RTA party the next time you drive to SoFla.
This sounds really geeky.
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 09:14 AM
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My take on IB:

Please bear with me as my little review will not be too technical. First of all these subs drop pretty low. I was crossing them over at 50Hz, but after a while of playing I noticed that at some notes, mainly just above 50Hz my Legatia 8s were suffering, so I crossed them a little higher at 56Hz. That did not help too much so I now have them at 63Hz and they both (the legatias and the DLS) sound very nice.

I heard that some people like to cross them over at 80Hz, but that was way too high for these subs. They became boomy and lost their appeal to me. IMO if you are going to use these subs match them with a midbass that can go as low as 50Hz so you have some room to play with your crossover points. I am driving all my subs with a single DLS Ultimate A6 running at 1ohm and at 300 watts each they are getting plenty of power, definitely more than what I will ever need.

It was a bit of a change for me to go from sealed to IB, they sound very different. I think IB does not have as much output as sealed but it drops much nicer. IB needs more fiddling with settings to get it sounding right, but sealed plays almost right out of the box (no pun intended). When it comes to punchiness we know we will be getting that out of the midbass, not the subs. My legatias complement these subs very well (or is it the other way around?).

Overall I am very happy with my subs, but it took some adjusting to go from sealed to IB. Once I got past of the initial shock to listening to the subs without being configured properly I got to work and with the help of many folks around here I got them sounding right. It took a lot of crossover point testing and EQing to get them to were I wanted them.

If I had the opportunity to do it again would I go sealed or IB? In my mind that is a loaded question. Now that I know them both better I would say that sealed has high sound quality, even at high volume levels and maybe even more output than IB. But IB drops lower and the quality is also there, but some of the output is lost. If space was an issue and I could go IB (as in my case now) I would choose IB again, otherwise I would go sealed because it is easier to get sounding right. Maybe I am still biased towards sealed, but if you ask me a few months from now you my get a more objective response, and it may even be different.
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