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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 12:29 PM
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I've read that the dust boots could be the culprit. Not sure how feasible that is, but it's worth diagnosing, too, i guess. Would you or anyone know if the red part circled in the image below is supposed to have the dust boot attached to that flat metal above it? (to keep it from moving).

And for the blue part circled, it's pretty loose now, zip-tie?

p.s. I know it's dirty. Those threads were very well cleaned before i even loosened the collars.
I've wondered about the boot fitment too, I'd assume they'd be placed the way they should be since they're already installed and ready to mount on the car. Mine are exactly the same fit w/ no ties holding the lower boot to the threaded section and the loose fit under the upper flange. I tried to slip it up over the flange but the boot wouldn't flex enough so I just left it like yours. I may shoot an email to Megan and see what they say. The current boot fitment really seems to allow a lot of dirt where it shouldn't be so it kind of defeats the purpose of having it there at all, but what do I know
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K...that woulda been my first guess for your squeak.

What about the rest of the grease points in the car? Do you grease those regularly too?
Rad, is there a service guide or diagram of all the grease points?

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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 01:33 PM
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Cars usually have grease points. I tried to look in the FSM, but I didn't find anything.

Rochester had this squeeling problem before. He said was the e-brake rubbing.
What's this squeak in the rear suspension on my 6MT Sedan? - Page 2 - MyG37

Idk.
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 01:57 PM
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Ive only ever seen the boots floating, usually when the suspension is under load it covers most of what it needs to. Mine float around freely, and never had a problem with them so far. I wonder if its actually the top edge of the spring rubbing against itself? Maybe try putting some electricial tape on spots that might be rubbing?
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Old Jan 27, 2013 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by blnewt
I may shoot an email to Megan and see what they say.
If you do, please report back. I'm curious, too, as the current setup doesn't seem like a very good seal.

Good news, guys. I think i figured it out. Or rather, i've narrowed it down to one of two things, as these are the points i've fixed today and so far the test drive and the "push front-end" test while parked has proved fruitful.

a) I greased the daylights out of the front SPC camber arm bushings.
b) I also greased the entire portion of the top spring where it meets the camber plate/mount and thrust sheets

My bet will have to be on the top spring. I inspected this very carefully and noticed some scratches on the inside of the coils, right where it meets the mount and just beyond where the thrust sheet collars end.

This would make the most sense as the squeaking started only after the Swift upgrade springs went in. I guess the Swifts have just a slightly narrower inner diameter compared to the BC coil.

Hate to jinx it, but it seems greasing this point has solved the issue, for now and hopefully for good. *crossing fingers*

*sigh of relief* --- i've jacked the front end at 7 times in the past week now, trying to narrow down the issue.

You guys have been very helpful. Thank you to all.
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Old Feb 12, 2013 | 07:58 PM
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Hey Mike just curious, did your original BC springs or the Swift springs come with upper and lower spring isolators? They are generally rubber or polyurethane mounts and I would think if those were in place it shouldn't squeak. If you did have them in place, did you just grease the point where the spring meets the rubber isolator? I'm seriously considering the BC coilover with Swift spring combo for my AWD coupe and just wanted to clarify.
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Old Feb 12, 2013 | 08:40 PM
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Hi Steve,

Neither set (the original, nor the Swift upgrade) came with isolators. It does come with thrust sheets so there's no spring/mount contact. In my case, it seems my thrust sheet collar is a bit worn so there's enough for the inside of the spring to touch the collar on the mount. Greasing helped.

In lieu of the isolators, you can also use spiral cable wrap typically used to organize cable clutter.

Here's a sample of how i used it on my old set up (different car.)



I might do this for a more permanent solution if i don't end up installing a new set-up. I'm on the quest to find a more comfortable set-up. It's been raining a lot this past week and the grease is slowly washing off. I can hear a faint squeak coming back.
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Old Feb 12, 2013 | 10:14 PM
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I see, the spiral cable wrap seems like a pretty decent long-term solution to preventing the rubbing. Do you happen to know the inner diameter of the swift springs? Maybe something like these isolators that energy suspension offer would work well too:

Energy Suspension coilover Spring Isolator 2 5" ID 65mm Polyurethane Washer | eBay
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Old Feb 13, 2013 | 08:19 AM
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Can i get back with you on that in a few days? The car will be on jackstands this weekend, i'll try to measure it for you then.

In the meantime, here's a pic of the rears, comparing the BC with the Swift replacement. Following it is another pic of the front/rear Swifts out of the box. They're the same size all-around, just different lengths. (good for when you decide to upgrade to true-type coilovers in the rears later on.)





On the first pic, notice how the inner portion of the coils are very close to the mounting collars. This is the issue i'm having with the front, specifically the top portion, where the thrust collar ends and the metal mount touches the spring.
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Old Feb 13, 2013 | 08:26 AM
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Awesome Mike thank you for the additional pics, much appreciated.
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Old Feb 13, 2013 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Steveoh187
I see, the spiral cable wrap seems like a pretty decent long-term solution to preventing the rubbing. Do you happen to know the inner diameter of the swift springs? Maybe something like these isolators that energy suspension offer would work well too:

Energy Suspension coilover Spring Isolator 2 5" ID 65mm Polyurethane Washer | eBay
Those look interesting, I need to measure my upper rear spring to see if those would fit as I'm thinking some form of insulation rather than the metal/aluminum connection would be a good thing. That's a hellova price too, since they're about a $155 discount
I wonder if that's a typo and they're regularly $16.89
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Old Feb 13, 2013 | 09:27 AM
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Well what the hell, at that price I went ahead and got them, I'll report back when I get them on (if they fit, lol)
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Old Feb 13, 2013 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Steveoh187
Awesome Mike thank you for the additional pics, much appreciated.
You're welcome.

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Those look interesting, I need to measure my upper rear spring to see if those would fit as I'm thinking some form of insulation rather than the metal/aluminum connection would be a good thing. That's a hellova price too, since they're about a $155 discount
I wonder if that's a typo and they're regularly $16.89
LOL! Good point. Worst-case, they'll turn down the sale. You're tempting me now, too.

Interestingly, the photos they're using shows the Swift springs. I wonder if it's the same fit. I'll measure the old front BC coils, it's not much different than the Swifts, so that'll be a good gauge.
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Old Feb 13, 2013 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by blnewt
Those look interesting, I need to measure my upper rear spring to see if those would fit as I'm thinking some form of insulation rather than the metal/aluminum connection would be a good thing. That's a hellova price too, since they're about a $155 discount
I wonder if that's a typo and they're regularly $16.89
WOW lol hadn't noticed the original MSRP haha. Let us know once you get them in if they look like they fit. I went on Energy Suspensions website and it looks like they offer a variety of different size and shape isolators for the springs so there has to be an application there that would work with the Swift springs on the BC mounts

energysuspension.com | Shock Boots & Coil Spring Isolators
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Old Feb 13, 2013 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by soundmike
You're welcome.



LOL! Good point. Worst-case, they'll turn down the sale. You're tempting me now, too.

Interestingly, the photos they're using shows the Swift springs. I wonder if it's the same fit. I'll measure the old front BC coils, it's not much different than the Swifts, so that'll be a good gauge.
Actually I'm hoping to use them on the rear mounts, the smallish washboard bumps make it clack a bit back there and I figure a bit more cushion might make a nice difference, plus I'll be able to move those rear collars up a bit since there's not much thread left back there
If they don't fit I can always try them up front. BTW, sale went through, but I only think they have one more set left, better hurry bro

Originally Posted by Steveoh187
WOW lol hadn't noticed the original MSRP haha. Let us know once you get them in if they look like they fit. I went on Energy Suspensions website and it looks like they offer a variety of different size and shape isolators for the springs so there has to be an application there that would work with the Swift springs on the BC mounts

energysuspension.com | Shock Boots & Coil Spring Isolators
Thanks for the link and the Ebay listing, looking forward to trying them out, wish me luck
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Old Feb 13, 2013 | 06:54 PM
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Mike,

I understand the lube stopped the squeak, but look at your upper arm bushings, do they look like this??
Notice the bushing slipped, caused a squeak too!!


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