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SindhiStyle 05-06-2010 06:31 PM

How does Mercedes pull it off, yet we cant in your X's?
 
I know this questions has been rasied a million times and we have concluded we should not run a staggered set-up on an all-wheel drive G37.

Well I was over at my parents house last night, and my mom owns a C300 4matic and she had to get new tires. I just looked at the front tire and it says 225/45/17. I figured they would all be the same since it is all-wheel drive as well, but the backs come with 245/45/17. (these are the OEM tires that came when she bought it new).

Shouldnt this mess with the all-wheel drive system, or do you think MB is running the same width rim in the back, just a wider tire?

1fastbob 05-06-2010 06:34 PM

Makes no difference as long as the diameter of the tires front and rear are the same.

hispeed-lowdrag 05-06-2010 06:45 PM

I know people running staggered setups on 37X's...no problems so far

beerme986 05-06-2010 06:45 PM

you can run a staggered set up on awd ...

britishmutt 05-06-2010 06:46 PM

I've wondered about this too (caveat: I haven't done any research, I'm just thinking out loud). I'm not sure what appreciable difference a staggered setup would make to an AWD vehicle. The only thing I can think of is that a staggered setup would result in different levels of grip between the front and the back, which is something the traction/VDC/difflock software might have to take into account?

da mayor 05-06-2010 07:03 PM

I think it's also easier for people to be able to rotate tires as an option. Also the Mercedes Benz AWD 4matic used to only give 30% power up front and 70% rear fixed vs the ATTESSA-AWD giving up to a 50/50 ratio at some points

Triple_X 05-06-2010 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by 1fastbob (Post 2903992)
Makes no difference as long as the diameter of the tires front and rear are the same.

bingo. 245/35/20 and 285/30/20 with a 20x9 and 20x10.5 wheel gives you OD difference of .4mm!

I had alot of help with figuring that out I wish I could take credit


Originally Posted by hispeed-lowdrag (Post 2903994)
I know people running staggered setups on 37X's...no problems so far

oh hai :thewave:

Exige 05-06-2010 07:13 PM

I know a lot of people running staggerd on AWD I would prefer not too so I can rotate etc. But it does look sweet and like stated above if done correctly is safe.

hispeed-lowdrag 05-06-2010 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by Triple_X (Post 2904015)
bingo. 245/35/20 and 285/30/20 with a 20x9 and 20x10.5 wheel gives you OD difference of .4mm!

I had alot of help with figuring that out I wish I could take credit



oh hai :thewave:

hai buddy :hello:

haha I was wondering when you'd pop in here

finagle69 05-06-2010 08:14 PM


Originally Posted by Triple_X (Post 2904015)
I had alot of help with figuring that out I wish I could take credit

:28: silly 8 character rule...

CHI-TOWN G37 05-06-2010 09:21 PM

Ever see the monstrous stagger on a Lamborghini Gallardo or Murcielago? Those are both 4WD and as has been said stagger is not the problem. Some people have put aftermarket wheels and tires on these Lambos, messing with the diameters front to back and have blown the differentials.

csnpsu 05-07-2010 09:02 AM

Makes no difference as long as the diameter of the tires front and rear are the same. They can be different widths if you would like.

carz 05-07-2010 11:30 AM

technically...the most IMPORTANT part is that the front and rear diameters are the same size, that will cause major drivetrain problems.

in terms of staggered set ups, most AWD systems are fixed 30/70....ours is one of the few that are dynamic and change ratios.

When companies release their cars with a staggered set up, they've made sure that its been tested and beaten to death...and have written software to accommodate the staggered system. Its possible that Infiniti doesnt want to make software adjustments, and cant program their software to dynamically adjust and take the staggered set up into its accommodations.

now im not saying staggered on our cars will screw up the system, there are people running it fine....its just a chance to take

Alex57r 05-07-2010 01:10 PM

I for one am not going to try to be smarter than infiniti engineers. Too bad though, I want coupe rims bad but I gave up on finding another X owner to split 2 sets with.

jran76 05-07-2010 01:51 PM

my take.... https://www.myg37.com/forums/2673589-post4.html


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