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IAmYourPal Nov 13, 2014 09:10 PM

Can't get into gear after clutch change
 
Hey guys,

Just picked up my car at the shop where they put in a JWT clutch and flywheel as well as a Zspeed HD CSC. Car drove okay when I picked it up then it got progressively harder to get into gear. I had to really slam and force it into gear close to home and now it won't go into gear at all when the engine is on. Any idea what's going on?

Turbulent Nov 13, 2014 09:21 PM

Sounds like an issue with the CSC. Check it for fluid and if it's bleed properly.

IAmYourPal Nov 13, 2014 09:25 PM

They did say that they spent like 6 hours trying to bleed the CSC and no fluid came out...

Turbulent Nov 13, 2014 09:42 PM


Originally Posted by IAmYourPal (Post 3844482)
They did say that they spent like 6 hours trying to bleed the CSC and no fluid came out...

That's a good sign of an issue!

Darkstar752 Nov 13, 2014 09:57 PM


Originally Posted by IAmYourPal (Post 3844482)
They did say that they spent like 6 hours trying to bleed the CSC and no fluid came out...

100% the issue. Sounds like it might be leaking somewhere if it was getting progressively harder to drive. When I bled new fluid into my CSC, the only was to do it was with a vacuum bleeder, which was free rental from an auto store. When I tried gravity bleeding, it would not bleed correctly and I couldn't get the car into gear. Clutch pedal would stick to the floor as well, or be very easy to push.

IAmYourPal Nov 13, 2014 10:25 PM

Well, thanks guys. I'll need to tow it to the shop and have them redo it.

vqsmile Nov 14, 2014 03:07 AM

Just out of curiosity, did you/they replace your clutch master cylinder at the same time?

canucklehead Nov 14, 2014 12:05 PM

^ +1. should always do both at the same time. hydraulic system works together so if one part is failing or gets replaced it is wise to do the other part, combined with a fluid bleed.

IAmYourPal Nov 14, 2014 01:09 PM

No they didn't actually. They had the part but then told me my master was fine and was not leaking. I will probably have them install it and see if that will help.

lynx37X Nov 15, 2014 08:16 AM

Had the same issue with my 07 350Z. You are definitely going to have to change your master cylinder. I went with a wilwood setup and did stainless steel lines.

vqsmile Nov 15, 2014 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by IAmYourPal (Post 3844670)

No they didn't actually. They had the part but then told me my master was fine and was not leaking. I will probably have them install it and see if that will help.

So nobody considered the warning clearly stated on the Zspeed webpage:

"We highly recommend the CLUTCH MASTER CYLINDER be replaced along with the HD slave cylinder to prevent problems from worn/dirty original units. No warranty is offered if master cylinder is not replaced."

ZSpeed Performance Replacment HD Clutch CSC Heavy Duty Slave Cylinder Kit


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IAmYourPal Nov 15, 2014 05:43 PM

Got the car back today, it drives well. Moral of the story: change your master the same time you change the slave.

IAmYourPal Nov 15, 2014 07:46 PM

One question: Is slow acceleration normal after a new clutch install? Car bogs when you gas it in 1st, 2nd, or 3rd gear.

vqsmile Nov 15, 2014 07:59 PM


Originally Posted by IAmYourPal (Post 3845150)
One question: Is slow acceleration normal after a new clutch install? Car bogs when you gas it in 1st, 2nd, or 3rd gear.

No, not necessarily. Is the clutch slipping( motor revs, but not accelerating) or is the motor truly bogging (gas pedal depressed, motor slow to rev and not accelerating) ?

It is possible that who ever worked on the car was sloppy and got some contamination on the clutch disc/pressure plate/flywheel causing some slippage. It also is not a good idea to go out and tear it up right off the bat on a new clutch. Like brakes, they usually appreciate some break-in period.

IAmYourPal Nov 15, 2014 08:16 PM

Clutch is slipping. It shudders letting off at low rpm. My mechanic friend test drove it and said they didn't line up the clutch properly.


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