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telcoman Jan 27, 2015 07:23 AM

Can't pay cash for a vehicle?
 
Be careful!

Don't go over your head in debt.

http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2015/01/.../?ref=business

Telcoman

DYT-350Z Jan 27, 2015 08:33 AM


Originally Posted by telcoman (Post 3868520)
Be careful!

Don't go over your head in debt.

http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2015/01/.../?ref=business

Telcoman

Interesting article.

G37Xtreme Jan 27, 2015 10:22 AM

Santander (at one point) owned my loan on a 2007 Hyundai Sonata V6. It was at a reasonable interest rate though.

My last 2 cars have been with Wells Fargo Dealer Services at 1.9% and 2.9%.

Lego_Maniac Jan 27, 2015 11:01 AM

1.74% through my credit union. You should be able to earn more than that investing.

BigJack Jan 27, 2015 11:23 AM

But that is the American way!!!!

Why wait and buy later when I can pay with credit now!!!

I miss the days of easy no down jumbo mortgage loans.

Nothin2Somethin Jan 27, 2015 12:55 PM

Absolutely what is happening and this is a great article that brings it to light. Uneducated ppl making poor decisions which is usually the case.

vqsmile Jan 27, 2015 01:10 PM

Of course this wouldn't be an issue if . . .


http://usdailyreview.com/wp-content/...ponsbility.jpg

Xtremsiege2 Jan 27, 2015 01:36 PM

I feel bad for some of these people, others not so much because they earned it. I used to work at Subaru selling new and used, two different markets to sell to people. New car buyers knew what they wanted, knew their financials, credit score and debts. Used sometimes were just as educated ; but most of the time had no idea what their usually poor score was, income or how to calculated the monthly expense on a 15,000 car loan.

Santander, Capital one, credit acceptance corp are all fairly low creditor banks, capital one is getting fairly good through its pre-approval process but its strict. Mainly comes down to Fees as noted in that article, lenders dont want to loan money to someone who may or may not make their payments. On the flip side, the dealer bends the customer over by getting them a warranty, gap coverage, paint protection etc.


Originally Posted by vqsmile (Post 3868680)
Of course this wouldn't be an issue if . . .


http://usdailyreview.com/wp-content/...ponsbility.jpg

I agree mostly..sometimes first time borrowers get as much crap as people with poor or reestablishing credit. Although, first time borrowers should have a credit card or 2 showing they can make payments before getting a 8-20k loan etc.

Lego_Maniac Jan 27, 2015 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by vqsmile (Post 3868680)
Of course this wouldn't be an issue if . . .


http://usdailyreview.com/wp-content/...ponsbility.jpg


Monkey see, monkey do.

Our government runs massive deficits. Corporations make poor decisions and get tax payer bailouts. Why should joe schmoe be any more personally responsible?

BTW, I dont disagree with your post.

JSolo Jan 27, 2015 04:59 PM

Penfed still has some of the best rates around. I got in at 1.49 few years ago when I refi'd.

Ryne Jan 27, 2015 09:12 PM

I was able to read as far as the caption of the picture that stated the guy lost his car which had a 23.74% interest rate. This isn't a matter of buying a car with cash, it's about being financially reckless and making poor decisions.

Lego_Maniac Jan 27, 2015 09:29 PM


Originally Posted by Ryne (Post 3868842)
I was able to read as far as the caption of the picture that stated the guy lost his car which had a 23.74% interest rate. This isn't a matter of buying a car with cash, it's about being financially reckless and making poor decisions.

Kinda like getting a masters degree in women's studies and then being upset that you're waiting tables at Olive Garden.

vqsmile Jan 27, 2015 10:00 PM

Or like cosigning a note . . . when you're living on food stamps . . . and have no income . . . to buy a BMW (no less!!) . . . so that your out-of-state daughter can "have a car".

Sure, that's reasonable. :52:

Ryne Jan 28, 2015 12:29 AM


Originally Posted by Lego_Maniac (Post 3868854)
Kinda like getting a masters degree in women's studies and then being upset that you're waiting tables at Olive Garden.

Exactly! Not all degrees are created equal, and neither are loans.

Put those both together and we actually do have a modern problem, I'd say a bigger issue than car loans - Student loans. Most student loan interest rates are much higher than car loans and even mortgages. 4 years of college can easily set you back 6 figures... and thats in state tuition...

sLADe781 Jan 28, 2015 01:29 AM


Originally Posted by Ryne (Post 3868925)
Exactly! Not all degrees are created equal, and neither are loans.

Put those both together and we actually do have a modern problem, I'd say a bigger issue than car loans - Student loans. Most student loan interest rates are much higher than car loans and even mortgages. 4 years of college can easily set you back 6 figures... and thats in state tuition...

You nailed it dead on!! And this is coming from someone with firsthand experience.

My wife is from Japan so when she came to the states for her undergrad, the only loans that she qualified for were private loans from banks (vs subsidized loans offered through financial aid). What made matters worse was that she went to a private university so tuition was that much more expensive. Let's also not forget that since these loans were unsubsidized loans, they accumulated interest while she was still in school and when the interest rates fluctuated across the US, her rates would too. :banghead: Needless to say, by the time she finished school, she was 80k+ in debt...and that was just her undergrad. :(


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