Project Panda
Background:
I’ve only ever owned S-chassis cars since I’ve had my license; 3 S13 240sx, 2 S14 240sx, and the latest being a 180sx. Tragically, my 180sx was totaled when another driver t-boned me (August 2016). Needing another car I knew I was going to get a sedan but still wanted something to mod. Also being brand loyal, the G37 was my go to. I started my search in Georgia, then neighboring states, but had to expand to nation wide. A white 2010 6MT came up in Chicago with 60,000 miles on the clock, not to mention it had few mods on already. We flew up, checked the car, and drove it home that weekend. I have ave now owned the car for 2 years now and here is my build progress. I also started a YouTube channel for my build: ProjectPanda13 YouTube Channel Goals: The car is my daily driver but intend to do autocrosses and track day with it. Balance is important to me. I’m not focused on making large amounts of power, but more so how the car feels overall, just enough power to make it slightly faster than what it is, improving braking with the right pads, increasing chassis stiffness and suspension responsiveness. https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...3ca9e03e2.jpeg How the looked when I arrived. https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...7e1e0fbae.jpeg My car next to my wife’s Q50 https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...cc486caa5.jpeg Picking my 180sx up from the wreck yard https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...3fc53c064.jpeg |
Modification List (Black = installed Red = replaced Blue = bought/to be installed) Engine: ECU
Engine: Intake
Engine: Cooling
Engine: Fuel
Engine: Exhaust
Engine: Block
Drivetrain:
Chassis:
Suspension:
Brakes:
Exterior:
Wheels:
Future/Dream Parts:
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Nice build thread start, looking forward to more as you go. Wonder if this G was on the site in the past, sure looks familiar??? New wheels look nice on that white G and great rolling shot.
Looks like a nice collection of Nissan history too, any more pics of the past? |
Yes! The wheels look fantastic. What’s the info/specs on those wheels? |
Originally Posted by blnewt
(Post 4216196)
Nice build thread start, looking forward to more as you go. Wonder if this G was on the site in the past, sure looks familiar??? New wheels look nice on that white G and great rolling shot.
Looks like a nice collection of Nissan history too, any more pics of the past? Thanks. The car may have been on the forum but not sure. The previous owner bought the car from Houston. I found some some old pictures of my 240sx on Facebook. I owned all these at one point before handing them to my brother or girlfriend/wife at the time. https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...6b46e14aa.jpeg https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...a6578004e.jpeg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...557caef6c.jpeg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...33c34c11f.jpeg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...4aa136770.jpeg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...ea3b47ecb.jpeg One of the 240sx has a S15 front end conversion done when she owned it and sadly, it was stolen and stripped.
Originally Posted by GdaddyNY
(Post 4216205)
Yes! The wheels look fantastic. What’s the info/specs on those wheels? 20x8.5 +25 245/35R20 20x10.5 +35 275/30R20 Front fenders were rolled and pulled Rears just cambered, not sure how much. It was the natural camber from the lowering springs Forgestar C10 19x9 +32 255/40R19 19x10 +42 285/35R19 Same mods from how the Rennes was. SSR MS1 19x9 +24 245/35R19 19x10 +29 275/30R19 same mods as before Advan AVS Model T6 18x8 +30 245/45R18 18x9 +35 275/40R18 -2.0 camber all around |
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Looking good. That's a ton of mods for just having had the car for over a month. Welcome to the club and enjoy!
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stealing a dude's modded out car, which he worked hard to build, and stripping it down for parts like that is just low, totally disrespectful. Sorry man, hopefully this build will be just as satisfying for you as your last without the previous bad happenings.
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Originally Posted by p0on
(Post 4216594)
Looking good. That's a ton of mods for just having had the car for over a month. Welcome to the club and enjoy!
Originally Posted by gill1606
(Post 4217065)
stealing a dude's modded out car, which he worked hard to build, and stripping it down for parts like that is just low, totally disrespectful. Sorry man, hopefully this build will be just as satisfying for you as your last without the previous bad happenings.
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As the holiday rolls around, I'll get some free time to install these parts.
Z1 Slotted 2 piece rotors, front and rear along with Stoptech #309 pads. https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...82a83e0292.jpg I bought a full differential assembly with 3.916 gearing from Central20 off a 350z. The housing will get cleaned up and painted . Adding the Z1 differential cover to it also. I figured I might as well do the bushings while I'm there so I bought the subframe-differential hushing and the two that go in the differential. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...15ff0b3cc2.jpg My gaskets to do my valve cover and replacements for when I swap to my ported intake manifold also came in. But Concept Z sent me one wrong gasket to goes between the head and the lower manifold. |
Those are some quality upgrade choices. Looking forward yo updates when you have them on the car.
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Last night, Martin helped me flash my car back to stock form on Uprev so I can transition to Ecutek. I needed to send a ROM file to Ecutek have my VIn in their system. However, I got an email this morning from them saying that my ROM file I provided is supported on ProECU and to make sure I have the latest version. I'll try to run an update and see how it comes out.
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I manage to buy a set of intake manifold and GTR 550cc injector in the fuel rail for a great price. The manifolds were port by CFM Performance. Install last night overall, went pretty well.
Martin also had my car switched over to Ecutek now. All I have to do tonight is reinstall my intake pipes and attempt to start the car. If all is good, the car should start right up with no issues. https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...5b79e5c3c6.jpg Lower manifold with GTR 550cc injector in the fuel rail already. https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...e68ce09b46.jpg Left is the ported and the right is the original. |
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This was what I saw after removing the lower intake manifold. https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...793034d2eb.jpg I tried to clean off as much of the gunk as possibly. https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...99a4b5cf60.jpg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...f030e0cc7e.jpg I emptied out my oil catch can. This was about 3,000 miles. https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...94af6fd50f.jpg After a long drive to get to the shop, my car kept throwing a MAF code and I had to reset the code every couple of miles, I finally got on the dyno. https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...35022306e2.jpg Martin working his magic. https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...eda0d2df38.jpg Final numbers weren't what I expected, and still on the super low end compared to what I am reading everywhere else, but the car feels amazing, not to mention I'm getting 30 mpg now. |
That's a nice A/F line for a N/A car. You can't complain with 30mpg, lol.
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Why did you go from uprev to ecutek?
Did you ever consider admin tuned? |
Originally Posted by zer099
(Post 4221141)
That's a nice A/F line for a N/A car. You can't complain with 30mpg, lol.
Originally Posted by qmantran
(Post 4221197)
Why did you go from uprev to ecutek?
Did you ever consider admin tuned? I had a lot of trouble with the drivability on Uprev with the EPS throttle body, its not to say that other tuners could have made it work, but Martin mentioned that same day that he hasn't found a solution on Uprev. He offered to retune my car for free on Ecutek so I decided to go ahead to do ported intake manifolds and larger injectors. If I had more time, I would have done fuel pump also. Martin tunes more on Ecutek and switching over has been night and day in terms of drivabilty. I'm still trying to figure out some small idle issues, not sure if i have a vacuum leak or what but its minor. |
What were your engine mods for that dyno? Running E85 or just bigger injectors?
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Originally Posted by zer099
(Post 4221210)
What were your engine mods for that dyno? Running E85 or just bigger injectors?
EPS Throttle Bodies Michael Upton's 3" Long Tube Intakes Circuit Werks Test Pipes Motordyne Y-pipe TopSpeed y-back exhaust larger injectors were just in prepartion for going E85 but I'm still on 93. On Dynojets, I think others with the same mods have been putting doing numbers in the 330s. I plan to get my car dynoed over at Z1 for a better comparison. |
I'll be honest, I'm more interested in the curve then the max HP. The numbers are good in my opinion. Z1, TopSpeed, and CounterSteer, uses a Dynojet; Forged i think uses a DynoDynamics. I was trying to figure out why you have a 25ft/lb drop from 6k to 7k.
Your short runner length on your plenum should have helped with your high end, but didn't. Most VQ37s have that much loss (give or take) in that range before just dropping past 7k, but some can hold the line at 6k till 7k. I am starting to think its headers that do it. Once you go E85 you will 330s, easy, however expect your gas mileage to drop down to about 22-23 mpg when above 25%E. |
This is a graph from my first tune. On my second tune, I converted over to Ecutek and added ported upper and lower intake manifolds.
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Originally Posted by zer099
(Post 4221292)
I'll be honest, I'm more interested in the curve then the max HP. The numbers are good in my opinion. Z1, TopSpeed, and CounterSteer, uses a Dynojet; Forged i think uses a DynoDynamics. I was trying to figure out why you have a 25ft/lb drop from 6k to 7k.
Your short runner length on your plenum should have helped with your high end, but didn't. Most VQ37s have that much loss (give or take) in that range before just dropping past 7k, but some can hold the line at 6k till 7k. I am starting to think its headers that do it. Once you go E85 you will 330s, easy, however expect your gas mileage to drop down to about 22-23 mpg when above 25%E. |
I would be curious to see. It's hard to get data on the same engine with dynos at the same dyno. I took the liberty of overlapping your two posted dynos so you can look at what was gained with the ported manifolds and ECUtek. If you can get the charts for your re-tune with exhaust and 93OCT, then your final with E85 (with your E %) that would actually be super insightful if you used the same dyno.
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Great build. So many nice upgrades so far. :biggthumpup:
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https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...8cd84232e.jpegNice build Dave! Quality from the start, I like it! |
Small updates:
I've only had two instances where during my drive through heavy rain, my car started to buck and I couldn't go past half throttle. After the rain stopped and could drive the car with no problems. I figured a filter mesh was a small insurance and the cost of the mesh was cheap. These Sick Speed filter meshes fit the Apexi filters perfectly. https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...be475b4621.jpg https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...76669eff66.jpg |
Originally Posted by projectpanda13
(Post 4223764)
Small updates:
I've only had two instances where during my drive through heavy rain, my car started to buck and I couldn't go past half throttle. After the rain stopped and could drive the car with no problems. I figured a filter mesh was a small insurance and the cost of the mesh was cheap. These Sick Speed filter meshes fit the Apexi filters perfectly. https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...be475b4621.jpg https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...76669eff66.jpg i wouldnt drive too hard with them on. nice build sir. |
You could also dyno with them on and verify air flow or possibly have a winter tune for them.
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Originally Posted by PNW_IPL
(Post 4223790)
You could also dyno with them on and verify air flow or possibly have a winter tune for them.
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Originally Posted by projectpanda13
(Post 4221261)
CFM Performance Ported Upper and Lower Intake Manifold
EPS Throttle Bodies Michael Upton's 3" Long Tube Intakes Circuit Werks Test Pipes Motordyne Y-pipe TopSpeed y-back exhaust larger injectors were just in prepartion for going E85 but I'm still on 93. On Dynojets, I think others with the same mods have been putting doing numbers in the 330s. I plan to get my car dynoed over at Z1 for a better comparison. |
Originally Posted by Saltman
(Post 4225707)
I have very similar mods and managed 302whp at Z1. They told me that the topspeed exhaust is very restrictive and holding me back. I have another appt with them in feb. By then I'll have 3in intakes, headers and a single exit. Hoping for a huge increase.
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Originally Posted by projectpanda13
(Post 4225708)
I still want to have my car dynoed with them for a more comparative result. I wonder if I can book the same day also? When's your appointment?
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Originally Posted by Saltman
(Post 4225796)
Feb 14th Valentine's day. That would be interesting if you could make it
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Originally Posted by projectpanda13
(Post 4225708)
I still want to have my car dynoed with them for a more comparative result. I wonder if I can book the same day also? When's your appointment?
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Originally Posted by Mattlorentzoe
(Post 4225798)
😍 hmmmmmmm that would be cool. Seems like good amount of time. I need to get on the list with y’all for that day. I’m planning single exit and larger test pipes before then.
Originally Posted by Mattlorentzoe
(Post 4225799)
:JAMIN: that would be dope if we can all meet up |
Originally Posted by Saltman
(Post 4225907)
For sure! My appt is 10am-1230. But i'd stay to watch your dynos. Matt, what do you mean by larger test pipes?
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With free time during the New Year, I figured why not tackle a few mods.
The Z1 Transmission mount is one I've been looking to do for a while and thank to Tony (ttv36), he sent me one and I only had to cover shipping. The install was straight forward, but lining the hole to thread the bolt through was a bit annoying since I had to orientation the top and bottom portion of the mount perfectly. I haven't had a chance to drive the car yet since I'm still trying to finish my brakes. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...1426292247.jpg I went ahead and did all things brake related; Z1 front and rear 2 piece rotors, Z1 stainless steel lines, and StopTech Sport pads. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...be00752c4a.jpg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...d9fe717dfd.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...0f152fb903.jpg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...f83511a03b.jpg Z1 had sent me a rotor hat for a 2017 Q60. I adjusted my parking brakes all the way out and it still didn't make contact. It was when I posted on Facebook asking about this, that someone pointed out the part was not for my car. So I'll be heading to Z1 Saturday morning to trade in these for ones that fit G37/370Z. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...7863b3baf0.jpg The OEM is much smaller. https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...d825040849.jpg Because the y-pipe had to come off to install the transmission mount, I was sadden by the destruction of my second y pipe, and this hadn't been on the car but a few months. https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...ef6536554d.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...6569d038c6.jpg |
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I used metal bumper clips, placed inside of the frame holes and matching bolts to hold up the protection plate on the sides. https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...8c0ad2af66.jpg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...e55e8dc4aa.jpg I knew I needed something in the center to keep it from flapping during high speed driving so I used the holes on the transmission cross member. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...ca79d27bc8.jpg I know the overall result is janky, but my makeshift protection plate is doing its job. After replacing the y-pipe twice, its much easier replacing a $20 aluminum sheet than a $400 pipe or flex section repair. I plan to make a better version in the near future but I just needed something on to drive for the time being. There is a ton of rattling and metal noise but I am willing to live with it knowing I'm saving my y-pipe when going over the speed bumps in my neighborhood. |
Looking good bro
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I ordered a set of Tein Mono Sport coilovers a little over a week and received it a couple of days ago. I chose these over Fortune Auto or KW due to the EDFC Active Pro, but Fortune Auto was a very close choice. That will be next on my list. I don't care too much for true style rears. I'll have a review up when I install them next Friday.
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Originally Posted by Saltman
(Post 4230015)
Looking good bro
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Originally Posted by projectpanda13
(Post 4232664)
I don't care too much for true style rears.
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Originally Posted by Rochester
(Post 4232668)
Why is that?
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I pulled all the old stock and springs off to compare with the Tein Coilovers. Everything is on the car now, but I am considering making some protection sleeve. Aftermarket ones are selling for about $50 a pair, and I'm sure I can make something up for way less. I've never used a sewing machine before but I'm about to learn. https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...d418fe6797.jpg I pulled my Top Speed exhaust off and lined up all the pieces for the Motordyne to get an idea how it needs to be orientated. When I get more free time this week, I'll be installing the Motordyne. I also plan to go ahead and install my Z1 subframe collars. If my new differential comes in on time, Friday, then I'll install that along with replacing the subframe differential bushing. Just trying to get as much done while the car is on jack stands and various components are off. |
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All the goodies that have been sitting since November of last year. Z1 differential cover Z1 subframe collar Bell Raceworks diff brace Central20 3.916 final drive (in 350z housing) https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...396317d31.jpeg Had some Amsoil 80W90 gear fluid sitting around. https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...a067734ce.jpeg 350z 46 teeth tone ring vs G37 48 teeth tone ring https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...8b6f537b7.jpeg Painted the differential housing with high temperature paint https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...44e3f82ba.jpeg Completed unit https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...eb728ce1a.jpeg Z1 cover looking good https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...58a2ecad1.jpeg |
Originally Posted by projectpanda13
(Post 4236999)
350z 46 teeth tone ring vs G37 48 teeth tone ring
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Originally Posted by Hashim
(Post 4237148)
nice work on t he Diff!...question though... whats the point/difference of changing the "tone ring"?...I honestly have no idea what it does lol
let me know how you like it. How much did you find the diff for? I want the 4.08's... but if the 3.9 is cheap enough... |
Originally Posted by Hashim
(Post 4237148)
nice work on t he Diff!...question though... whats the point/difference of changing the "tone ring"?...I honestly have no idea what it does lol
Originally Posted by SupraOfDoom
(Post 4237149)
I believe since its a 350Z this is the only thing you need to change to make it work on a G37. So he took the ones from his diff and put them in the 350Z to make it fit.
let me know how you like it. How much did you find the diff for? I want the 4.08's... but if the 3.9 is cheap enough... |
Let us know how that diff brace is. I haven't installed mine yet.
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Originally Posted by SupraOfDoom
(Post 4237149)
I believe since its a 350Z this is the only thing you need to change to make it work on a G37. So he took the ones from his diff and put them in the 350Z to make it fit.
Originally Posted by projectpanda13
(Post 4237151)
Its exactly what SupraofDoom explained. Its the wheel speed sensor that attached to the diff.
Sorry for being a bit dense on this...just curious cause I've done a few of these but never thought to change the stub axles for that particular reason lol....so if you don't change these the speedometer will it be running fast or slow (my gut says fast)? any idea by how much it'd be off by? |
Originally Posted by jpowersjr2
(Post 4237185)
Let us know how that diff brace is. I haven't installed mine yet.
Originally Posted by Hashim
(Post 4237206)
Sorry for being a bit dense on this...just curious cause I've done a few of these but never thought to change the stub axles for that particular reason lol....so if you don't change these the speedometer will it be running fast or slow (my gut says fast)? any idea by how much it'd be off by?
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Originally Posted by jpowersjr2
(Post 4237185)
Let us know how that diff brace is. I haven't installed mine yet.
Originally Posted by projectpanda13
(Post 4236999)
That Made in USA sticker... kind of crude for Bell to throw that on, but stickers can come off and it's all subjective. |
Originally Posted by Rochester
(Post 4237208)
You and me both. And a number of others I suspect, mostly people who bought it over winter.
Hey Panda, on the assumption that pic is what I'm seeing, love that matte silver finish on the Z1 diff cover. That Made in USA sticker... kind of crude for Bell to throw that on, but stickers can come off and it's all subjective. |
Nice rpf1s you got there. What size are they?
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Originally Posted by qmantran
(Post 4237497)
Nice rpf1s you got there. What size are they?
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Originally Posted by projectpanda13
(Post 4237498)
Thanks, sadly they are 17x9 and won't fit on the G. I had them on my previous car. I'm trying to sell them now.
Enkei told me the fronts will need 18x8.5 +30 to clear front akebonos. https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...5dfd7d912e.jpg |
Originally Posted by qmantran
(Post 4237626)
I have 18x9 +35 rpf1 in the rear. They clear the rear akebonos but not the fronts.
Enkei told me the fronts will need 18x8.5 +30 to clear front akebonos. https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...5dfd7d912e.jpg |
Originally Posted by projectpanda13
(Post 4237627)
Dam that looks so good. I know 18x9.5 +15 also clears the Akebono up front, but +38 will not.
There's a guy I'm following on Instagram with 18x9.5 +15 rpf1 in SBC on his g37 6 speed with akebonos and they look really aggressive. This is how my 18x9 +35 look https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...9a84c75206.jpg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...6ee4027a7e.jpg Even my 18x9 +35 sticks out a bit more than I would like. The 18x9.5 +15 stick out WAY more. |
i agree it’s aggressive on a sedan but if someone really wanted to, with enough camber it can fit. I’d like to get something lighter than what I currently have and don’t want to rock RPF1s again, but they are so hard to beat for the price and weight
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Originally Posted by projectpanda13
(Post 4237672)
i agree it’s aggressive on a sedan but if someone really wanted to, with enough camber it can fit. I’d like to get something lighter than what I currently have and don’t want to rock RPF1s again, but they are so hard to beat for the price and weight
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I was very disappointed over this past weekend. I was expecting the subframe collars to be at most a 1 hour job but it ended up taking me 4 hours.
First, the captive-weld nut in the chassis that the small sub-frame brace is held in by breaks on me so I had to cut the bolt off. I spent most of my time trying to find something that would fit in the space and I didn't have anything to burn it off. I also sheared off all three bolts that held up the plastic rear shield. https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...f3ee210fbe.jpg During the process of installing the collars, I guess my rubber bushings were in such great condition that I had the hardest time fitting it in. I had to resort to using a jack with a tube pipe to push the collar in. This is how it current fits in the rear. Is this normal? https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...4f732831de.jpg I sold this particular lip a while back and bought one brand new pre-painted, but I never installed it since my bumper was in such bad shape. This lip happen to be on sale by the guy I sold it to and asked if I could buy it back. Now, I have a crappy lip with a crappy bumper. A perfect match. https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...9d1b9f6f42.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...d7bf219e1e.jpg |
Originally Posted by projectpanda13
(Post 4238231)
I was very disappointed over this past weekend. I was expecting the subframe collars to be at most a 1 hour job but it ended up taking me 4 hours.
First, the captive-weld nut in the chassis that the small sub-frame brace is held in by breaks on me so I had to cut the bolt off. I spent most of my time trying to find something that would fit in the space and I didn't have anything to burn it off. I also sheared off all three bolts that held up the plastic rear shield. During the process of installing the collars, I guess my rubber bushings were in such great condition that I had the hardest time fitting it in. I had to resort to using a jack with a tube pipe to push the collar in. This is how it current fits in the rear. Is this normal? can you post better pics of the bushing sitting? its hard to tell from the pic posted but it does look to be sitting a little high |
Originally Posted by Hashim
(Post 4238233)
sucks to hear...almost sounds like you are working on a northern car...broken bolts seized from corrosion is usually half the working time in areas where they use road salt....tons of PB blaster and a good thread chaser set is a must up here ... I hope you post a you tube video on your install though...Iv'e had my collars sittign i nthe garage for at least a year now waiting on me getting to them...
can you post better pics of the bushing sitting? its hard to tell from the pic posted but it does look to be sitting a little high |
I also just installed Z1 subframe collar inserts yesterday. The top collar inserts were simple and easily fell into place. The lower collars were a bitch. I sprayed the bushing with silicone lubricant and also sprayed the collar inserts. Didn't make going in any easier. I had a rubber mallet to beat it in and didn't have any luck. Since I had the car up on a lift I decided to grab a pole jack and use a 38mm axle nut socket to help press the lower inserts in. Everything went in fine after that.
Took me about 1.5 hours and that was because I wasted a good bit of time trying to use a rubber mallet to hit the lower collar in. I finally decided to just remove part of my exhaust to get more access and use a pole jack to press it in. |
Originally Posted by qmantran
(Post 4238467)
I also just installed Z1 subframe collar inserts yesterday. The top collar inserts were simple and easily fell into place. The lower collars were a bitch. I sprayed the bushing with silicone lubricant and also sprayed the collar inserts. Didn't make going in any easier. I had a rubber mallet to beat it in and didn't have any luck. Since I had the car up on a lift I decided to grab a pole jack and use a 38mm axle nut socket to help press the lower inserts in. Everything went in fine after that.
Took me about 1.5 hours and that was because I wasted a good bit of time trying to use a rubber mallet to hit the lower collar in. I finally decided to just remove part of my exhaust to get more access and use a pole jack to press it in. I had a lot of trouble with my rear bottom collar. I had to use jack and tube to get enough force to push it in. |
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Thanks for the reference pictures. Mine looks the same then and I have nothing to worry about.
Hopefully I'll have my diff bushing cut out and replaced this weekend. Once I have that done, I should be smooth sailing for the rest of the install of the differential and my exhaust. |
I used my jack to push the subframe up and then began bolting it back. It eventually went into place properly.
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I started my differential bushing replacement last weekend but didn't have time to finish it. I managed to at least get the inner part out using the Z1 tool. I hope to finish this tomorrow and also have everything including my exhaust installed back on for Friday Night Drags at AMS. But if not then finished by Saturday for a dyno day.
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I got bored and decided to weigh up my Motordyne exhaust. This scale isn't very accurate so the numbers night be +/- 3lbs with a total is about 65 lbs.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...0488b7950c.jpg This is the hardware weighed together in a bag (clamps and bolts). About 3 lbs https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...e95f2133f5.jpg Mid-Muffler at about 14 lbs https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...7ee06b00be.jpg Left rear canister at 12lbs https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...e70a26c4dd.jpg Right mid-pipes at about 8 lbs https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...feebd334a2.jpg Y-collector at about 8 lbs https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...ddd1f466ad.jpg Left mid-pipes at about 8 lbs https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...f904ef4485.jpg Right rear canister at 12 lbs |
You borrowing that tool? I need to eventually do my diff bushing. Already got my Whiteline bushings.
Any idea what the stock exhaust weighed? |
Originally Posted by jpowersjr2
(Post 4239247)
You borrowing that tool? I need to eventually do my diff bushing. Already got my Whiteline bushings.
Any idea what the stock exhaust weighed? im not sure the stock exhaust weight. |
Nice! Yeah I think I remember seeing that thread. I'm a member on there but I am on here a lot more. How much did the tool help and how was the overall job? Can it be done in a day/half day, assuming I already have the right tools and everything?
Along with the Whiteline diff bushings, I have the Bell brace for the OEM diff cover to install as well so I figured do it all at once. |
Originally Posted by jpowersjr2
(Post 4239384)
Nice! Yeah I think I remember seeing that thread. I'm a member on there but I am on here a lot more. How much did the tool help and how was the overall job? Can it be done in a day/half day, assuming I already have the right tools and everything?
Along with the Whiteline diff bushings, I have the Bell brace for the OEM diff cover to install as well so I figured do it all at once. but you are welcome to borrow the tool next. Just post up on the thread. It’s the perfect time to do everything since you’ll have the diff out. Same scenario for me. I didn’t use the tool for installing. I bought some angles shelve brackets and used a long bolt to pull the bushing through. However, I’m ran into the problem of not being able to pull the using through any more and it’s keeping me from being able to bolt my diff back to the car |
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Finally removed the metal sleeve today. Accidentally made lots of nicks around the subframe but it is what it is. https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...d7b944043.jpeg I thought I would be able to push the bushing in by hand after freezing it. How wrong I was. https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...04474bc04.jpeg I went out to Home Depot to buy this shelf bracket to help me pull the bushing through the subframe. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...cd269ede6.jpeg Front side of the bushing. I noticed after I attempted to mount my diff back on the car that I needed to have the bushing pushed in more. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...3831a7d0a.jpeg |
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The Bell Raceworks differential brace is a breeze to install. I used a wrench with the nut on the closed end, held it in place with one hand, then with the other, put the bolt through the brace, and threaded a few threads to hold the brace up. https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...5d544abcb.jpeg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...f6dacd94d.jpeg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...68b8c9411.jpeg After I got everything situated with the differential, I put on my new exhaust. Man does it sound good. |
Were you able to get the bell raceworks nut to seat flush inside the rear subframe? I tried but couldn't.
Mine sits like this https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...c58dd742b5.jpg |
Also how did your car do on the dyno?
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Originally Posted by qmantran
(Post 4239626)
Also how did your car do on the dyno?
On the mustang dyno today: Max HP: 338 with WCF: 343 Max Torque: 278 with WCF: 287 |
Originally Posted by projectpanda13
(Post 4239627)
Mine sits the same way are yours. I think it might be one of the tack welds that keeping it from sitting flush.
On the mustang dyno today: Max HP: 338 with WCF: 343 Max Torque: 278 with WCF: 287 Also where did you purchase the CFM performance ported intake runners? I did a Google search and had 0 results. |
Originally Posted by qmantran
(Post 4239629)
Sweet, who are you tuned by and are those E85 or 91/93 numbers?
Also where did you purchase the CFM performance ported intake runners? I did a Google search and had 0 results. CFM is a shop in Indiana. They specialize in porting. https://www.cfmperformance.com/ |
I bought some new tires for the SSR wheels, 225/45R19 and 255/40R19. I also went ahead and raised my car since my Motordyne was getting beaten up badly and with all the bridges in Atlanta, my sub-frame was also taking a beating when it hits the bridge joints.
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Which ones are the SSR wheels? I really like the light gold, split 8-spokes with the chrome lip. Those could look real fine on a moonlight white car.
So I guess if they're the dark bronze 6-spokes... nevermind, LOL |
Originally Posted by Rochester
(Post 4246900)
Which ones are the SSR wheels? I really like the light gold, split 8-spokes with the chrome lip. Those could look real fine on a moonlight white car.
So I guess if they're the dark bronze 6-spokes... nevermind, LOL |
Staggered 19", FTW. I think 19" is the perfect size for the Sedan. IMO, only the Coupe can do 20" right. On the Sedan, 18" looks almost too small, but not so bad. And 17" just looks dumb.
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This past Saturday, I joined a dyno day reserved for VQ motors. This was the perfect opportunity for m eto get a good comparison against other G37/370z on the same dyno in the same day.
However, my numbers were so disappointing. https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...fcc3af1851.jpg There was a G37 with only K&N intakes, test pipes, and Motordyne exhaust that put out 318 whp. And I'm here with ported Upper and Lower plenums, 3" intakes and EPS throttle bodies on top of him only to make about the same power, 320 whp. https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...facc07ab72.jpg I didn't stay all day but right before I left, the highest dyno was 353 whp from a G37. Long tube intakes, ported upper plenum, Z1 Headers, Tomei test pipes, and Motordyne exhaust. Now I want to check if my compression is good, then maybe replace my Circuit Werks test pipes with ART pipes. I already have new 3" intakes, TBs, and plenums coming. |
I picked up a set of ART pipes for a good deal. They are a bit busted up but no holes, or cracks present. I don't mind my current Circuit Werks test pipes but these will hopefully get rid of the hiss. I also like that these are the brackets that bolt to the tunnel brace.
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Nice bro! It will definitely help with the hiss/rasp. Get those refinished or polished then wrap them or ceramic coat. I wrapped mine with DEI and high temp spray. Check my IG; jpowers36.
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Originally Posted by jpowersjr2
(Post 4249158)
Nice bro! It will definitely help with the hiss/rasp. Get those refinished or polished then wrap them or ceramic coat. I wrapped mine with DEI and high temp spray. Check my IG; jpowers36.
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These look like V2 which I do believe came ceramic coated (or some other form of coating) - thicker welds, non-stainless finish and no resonator support bracket.
Should still make power and the sound that you're looking for! The way I see it is that the numerous sales of V2s funded the upgraded look and quality of the V3s. |
Originally Posted by ZontheRocks
(Post 4249201)
These look like V2 which I do believe came ceramic coated (or some other form of coating) - thicker welds, non-stainless finish and no resonator support bracket.
Should still make power and the sound that you're looking for! The way I see it is that the numerous sales of V2s funded the upgraded look and quality of the V3s. |
Originally Posted by projectpanda13
(Post 4249216)
Its scraped pretty bad on the bottom so I was thinking of using some VHT high temp paint on the whole thing. These have the support bracket on the other side. Didn't you sell a set not long ago? What pipes are you running now?
I sold my V2s and picked up a set of V3s. Installed two weeks ago with an O2 sensor spacer and no CEL light for my 2016 370Z. These are also paired with a Motordyne Shockwave and the sound is great. Absolutely no hiss. |
Originally Posted by projectpanda13
(Post 4249197)
That's my plan. I have some left over wrap, so I figured I would use it on them. What high temp paint did you use? I've been your follower on IG for a while.
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