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Old 09-30-2010, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Kverd88
It's kinda funny that even though the Stillen is producing more power ... A lot of people are still going with the R2C ... I just find that interesting and I am not trying to sway peoples vote one way or another ... Both are great intakes.

I guess more power isn't alway everything to real world drivers. LOL
NO it's that ~3HP ain't worth the install/maintenance pain and sacrifice in engine protection.

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Originally Posted by Kverd88
It's kinda funny that even though the Stillen is producing more power ... A lot of people are still going with the R2C ... I just find that interesting and I am not trying to sway peoples vote one way or another ... Both are great intakes.

I guess more power isn't alway everything to real world drivers. LOL
Some just aren't mechanically inclined to do the Stillen install themselves (no offense! lol), so the extra cost of installation at a shop is also a factor.

I was lucky though... the shop I go to gave me a hook-up since it was their first Gen 3 installation on a G37 sedan. Since all the "hard" work has already been done, it wouldn't be that big of a deal to install it again if I choose to sell the R2c.

I'm just not sure yet. I want to see how the powder coating of the Stillen tubes looks before I make up my mind.
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14 hp gain from SRIintake and tune is not much. CAI and tune would be even better
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Originally Posted by RedG37SNC
NO it that ~3HP ain't worth the install/maintenance pain and sacrifice in engine protection.
Lol ... In glad I do most of my installs myself.
Originally Posted by franky2222
14 hp gain from SRIintake and tune is not much. CAI and tune would be even better
I've already compared both these intakes with similar bolt on and tunes a page or two back. See my earlier post. At max there was only about a 5hp difference. No ones going to feel anything from 5hp. Sorry butt dyno...lol
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Originally Posted by Kverd88
Lol ... In glad I do most of my installs myself.

I've already compared both these intakes with similar bolt on and tunes a page or two back. See my earlier post. At max there was only about a 5hp difference. No ones going to feel anything from 5hp. Sorry butt dyno...lol
thats was done on 2 cars right? not accurate enough for me thats all and it looks like a 7hp diff
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Originally Posted by franky2222
14 hp gain from SRIintake and tune is not much. CAI and tune would be even better
The gain was >15+ <- note the plus and check the dyno and yes I'll give Cold Air 3 extra HP.... hardly noticable.
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when you dyno the sri do you close the HOOD ??
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well ucla B got 16whp from the injen cai so with a tune that would be an even greater gain
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Originally Posted by franky2222
when you dyno the sri do you close the HOOD ??
Keep it open either way. These cars get HOT.
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Originally Posted by franky2222
when you dyno the sri do you close the HOOD ??
Yes. Btw, the Cobb AP can report intake air temp, here's a graph below of how cooler air is being taken in once underway with a pretty quick drop to it. This was taken in july in NC, air temp was probably in the high 80's or low -90's.. definately a warm day. Graph shows Intake temp and speed. Unless there's a fridge on the end of those oiled gauze filters, can't imagine them doing a heck of a lot better here except at 0 Mph.

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Originally Posted by franky2222
well ucla B got 16whp from the injen cai so with a tune that would be an even greater gain
Probably greater but as much I doubt. The reason is the Injen also uses a cotton gauze filter which will let more air (and dust) in then R2C's filters and probably would produce a similar result to the Stillen pre-tune. They're both already closer to the optimum power AFR where the R2C was far from it running rich under the stock tune.

Post tune I'd bet they'd all be damn close, although I'd give a slight lead to the cotton guaze systems. My point is though that it's probably not worth the costs.

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Ed wants to test my car some more to get more data (AFR etc.). Not sure when it will be. They could have used me Thursday but I'm getting over the flu...

If there are any updates I will of course post up... It's good to see that they want to find out why there was such a huge difference with my runs, as opposed to the 7+ they did with the other 2 local G37 Stillen/R2c comparisons.
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Under a stock tune, will The R2C run too rich and cause damage to the cats? Thanks.

Originally Posted by RedG37SNC
Probably greater but as much I doubt. The reason is the Injen also uses a cotton gauze filter which will let more air (and dust) in then R2C's filters and probably would produce a similar result to the Stillen pre-tune. They're both already closer to the optimum power AFR where the R2C was far from it running rich under the stock tune.

Post tune I'd bet they'd all be damn close, although I'd give a slight lead to the cotton guaze systems. My point is though that it's probably not worth the costs.
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Originally Posted by franky2222
thats was done on 2 cars right? not accurate enough for me thats all and it looks like a 7hp diff
You have to remember that Avos car was running TP and my car was running HFC. so really our comparison wasn't identical. You have to remember that the TP in his set up probably accounted for 2-3 more hp than my hfc provided. So really, post tune the Stillens only gave about a 4whp difference from my R2C.

Originally Posted by amg35
Under a stock tune, will The R2C run too rich and cause damage to the cats? Thanks.
I doubt it will cause harm.

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Originally Posted by amg35
Under a stock tune, will The R2C run too rich and cause damage to the cats? Thanks.
No more than the stock intake, AFR was basically unchanged according to my Cobb. R2C however would claim they're less restrictive then stock and they'd have better equipment to test that. The second goal was to maintain that even under loading, see test results below. Point is they're definately more restrictive then cotton guaze.

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