That's completly WRONG if you live in Europe (like me and many others)
Here, you can see Audi's everywhere. Even the A5 is a common car. Most of them with 3.0L TDI (turbidiesel) versions. Also alot of BMW's, Merc, VW (Passat, Golf, Tuareg, etc...).Infiniti's are very rare and Nissan's are "something else"

If you like the torque at low RPM's and high mileage, get a diesel version.
The 3.0 TDI get 40 MPG (in the real life) and 500 Nm (370 lbf) from 1200 RPM.
But you only get 240 HP and a boorring car...

Dont get me wrong!.
A5 is a nice car. But there are too many on the road and they luck too... "conservator" to me. They didn't changed too much betwen versions.

Anyway, congrat's for the deal.

Eclipse tsi? Sorry I call bs, if you really did own a DSM And were enthusiastic enough to make it run 12's, you would never make such a noob mitake confusing the eagle talon and Mitsubishi eclipse.

What set up were you running on that eclipse/talon? Which year? Did you have a 6 bolt or 7 bolt engine? 3 or 4 bolt rear end?

As forthe A5, yes it is a very nice car but I would never pay 40k+ for a car that has a 200hp engine. But that's just me.

Call all the BS you want to. I actually owned two of them, both highly modified. I have several pictures of each. I have pictures of them at the track. I have time slips.

Both of my cars were modified with mostly HKS stuff. Offroad exhaust (no cat), 1st generation EVC (electronic boost controller), hybrid turbo with a modified impeller, etc... I ran 20 lbs of boost with the stock intercooler and the car would hit the high 12's with a 1.7 short time. I used to rev the engine to 6000 rpm and side step the clutch. It hit so hard that the windshield wipers would come on from the jolt. In fact, I have a picture of a launch with the wipers on.

So yeah, go ahead and call BS all you want. You remind me of that loser who was perma-banned a while ago.

Oh, BTW...this was like 20 years ago. I purchased both of the cars brand new and modded them right away. You were probably in diapers back then.

Also, I preferred the way the Talon looked over the Eclipse, so I swapped some of the parts to make it look like a Talon. The tiny grille on the Talon looked better than the plastic lens on the Eclipse. So in that sense, you can say my Eclipse was part Talon in the looks department.

I'd guess that 99% of the forum members here are from North America. Audi just doesn't sell a lot of A5s on this continent. Trust me, there are far fewer A5s on the roads here compared to the G37. And the BMW 3 series is everywhere you look. You see almost as many of those as you do Camrys and Accords.

The HP is meaningless. The 211 HP rating means nothing to me. The car has more than 250 lb. ft. of torque on tap from just 1500 rpm. That's what makes a great driving car to me, not the HP rating.

And $40K is nothing for a new car these days. I'll be paying cash in full, so it's not even an issue for me.

^ because no one here in the U.S. wants it, not because Audi doesn't want to make more sales... you should have got the S5, minus the motor (since you're clearly not concerned with that) it has more upgrades than the A5. wheels, exhaust, seats, power side mirrors, suede roof etc... . I guess you didn't care about that either.

The wheels he's getting since he got the sport package. The exhaust is useless on the 2.0T...it has power side mirrors...he can get the S5 seats and headliner if he got the S line package. I'm guessing since he custom ordered his, he chose not to get it for whatever reason...so yeah, he didn't care about that. Now lay off the guy. He's not spending your money. And that full lady car? Coming from a guy that has a Z4? Nice.

Congrats man. Considered the A5/S5 before deciding on the G.
On the other hand. We have just as many A5s here as G37 coupes. It's the sedans that are so common/

I'm not going to ask to post pics because I know you won't. :bowrofl:
The wipers turning on during a launch is spot-on. It's a well known DSM trait. Hybrid turbo? What kind? Since that's such a generic term. You didn't need a hybrid turbo to run 12's, that was easily done with a clipped small 16G or even a ported 14B.
I called bs because I was on the DSM scene for many years and nobody but noobs would say eclipse tsi or talon gsx lol. Your answer seemed very generic, I asked simple questions that a DSM enthusiast would know the answer without even thinking, and you have yet to answer them.

Things get more interesting below though.


Lol you're older than me but not by much.
20 years ago? You were in the 12's with a DSM 20 years ago when the aftermarket was almost non existent in north America? If you were in the 12's that long ago you would be well known in the DSM community as a pioneer. Is your name Dave Buschur? Todd Day? John Shepperd? DSM's on the 12's were old news by the mid 90's but 20 years ago (that is 1990-91) it was unheard of until Bushur ran a 12 second pass sometime in 1992 or so on his iconic "4BANGR". Building a DSM those days you either needed the money to order aftermarket parts from Japan (and even in Japan 4G63T aftermarket parts were not that common) or build your own.
lol nice save! I catch you on a noob mistake and your excuse is that you had eclipse body parts on your talon? Nice.
I do agree that the talon looked better than the eclipse. That's why I owned two talons ('92 and 98).

Enjoy your new A5, turbo cars are fun when the boost kicks in but 200hp and 258 torque is still weak for such a relatively heavy car.

No, because Audi apparently doesn't want to crank them out as fast as they can make them. They are obviously not going for the high sales/low profit business model. If they were, there would be a lot of them sitting on dealer lots.

BTW, the S5 comes with the same size wheels and tires as the A5 (with the sports package) and I prefer the design of the wheels on the A5 much more than the S5. Personal choice, I guess. The seats on the S5 are not as nice as the seats on the A5 (again, with the sports package) either. I don't like the highback bucket seats on the S5. I prefer the bucket seats with the separate headrest on the A5. Power side mirrors are on both cars (are you kidding me?) Suede roof? WTF are you talking about? The headliner? LOL, who gives a crap about that? Yeah, I guess you're right that I don't care.

Actually there are quite a few A5s here in Thousand Oaks / Westlake / Oak Park area...but it's still a nice car. S5s are definatley more rare, especially the V8.i like Audis. I'd get one if I could afford the payments and maintinence. i've read some horror stories from owner emebers...and it's enough to give me pause.

Maybe I will just to prove you wrong and make you look stupid. Problem is that Id have to scan them in because the were taken back in the very early 90's before digital cameras.

Who said anything about needing it? I just said it was a mod I made to the car. It was new technology back then.
Again, this was 20 years ago. Sorry that I haven't thought about the diamond star cars for all these years. I never cracked open the engine or did anything at all to the car other than bolt-ons.

Nonexistant? Really? LOL. Greddy wasn't around yet, but you must have heard of HKS, right? Did you know that they had stages for building up the Eclipse/Talon in 1990? Stage 1 was just their exhaust. Stage 2 was their PowerFlow intake, complete with the big green filter element. Stage 3 was an EVC....etc... I can probably find my old HKS catalog if I dig through my closet.

LOL, no, it wasn't. Not everybody was trying to make a name for himself (like Buschur) by building a Talon. I wasn't the only one who broke into the 12's back then. You've got to be kidding me if you think Buschur was the first.

Wrong again. Like I said, HKS could get you into the 12's in 1990 with nothing but bolt-ons from their catalog. I'm not the only one who did it.

It wasn't a save. I never said anything about having Talon parts on my Eclipse as a reason I said TSi instead of GSX. I just liked the Talon parts better. I also put the wrap-around spoiler from the Talon on my Eclipse, but I had it painted gloss black first. Looked better than the flat black that it was painted from the factory.

yeah they track z4's sir, it actually out performs the G37/A5 in everything... the G is my slowest/cheapest (semi lady car) so I don't understand where you we're going with that.... thank you though

oops edit that, the G has a better navigation system.