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Old 11-07-2018, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Gabebapes
has the car sat for extended period of time?
if the intake swap to stock didnt help i would start with the basic. At this point you need to try anything you can. Assuming the stock intakes are back on i would do a spark test make sure spark plugs are clean and no injectors are leaky, coils are good etc, also check fuel pressure for fuel pump, see if injectors all click, gas is good.
Ive had an issue like this it ended up being the fuel pump but the dealer picked it up on they're scanner.
The one sensor it could be is the maf or map since it picks up manifold pressure and tells the computer what mixture to send out.
The car has sat for about 2 months. The spark plugs, injectors and coils have all been tested during this time. I’m hoping it is the MAF sensor or intakes so that I can just drive the thing. I will get to it this Sunday.
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Could it be bad gas?
Old 11-08-2018, 10:18 AM
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I'd recommend checking fuel pressure and take a gas sample. How are fuel trims at idle and normal driving?
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bad gas can lead to the destruction of the fuel pump. Also keep in mind that gas does not go away if the car sits meaning it sits inside the injectors, fuel filter, fuel pump, lines and since gas is oil based eventually turns into gunk which can cause ur injectors to be leaky or slow the speed of the fuel pump. Defently sounds fuel related to me. how is the car in cold start? If you start it cold and drive it cold does it run worse then normal?
Old 12-08-2018, 02:55 PM
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I took the car to yet another mechanic who is also having trouble fixing it. He will most likely give up and return the car with the misfire. This thing is undiagnosable; I didn’t know that could even happen. The stock intakes are back on and the car will be sold or traded in the upcoming week. Thank you for all of your input and suggestions!
Old 12-08-2018, 03:11 PM
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Out of curiosity, was there any oil inside of the banks of the plugs? if you have a leaking valve cover gasket, then oil could be seeping into those banks and fouling the plugs. At 160k miles it could be a possibility. I'm experiencing the issue now at 80k
Old 12-08-2018, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by RMB5190
Out of curiosity, was there any oil inside of the banks of the plugs? if you have a leaking valve cover gasket, then oil could be seeping into those banks and fouling the plugs. At 160k miles it could be a possibility. I'm experiencing the issue now at 80k
this. While i dont misfire yet i changed the plugs and noticed bank 2 and 4 have oil. Definitely check the valve cover gaskets
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Originally Posted by PNW_IPL
this. While i dont misfire yet i changed the plugs and noticed bank 2 and 4 have oil. Definitely check the valve cover gaskets
Same thing happened to me with my old Maxima. Leaking VC gasket led to oil pooling in one of the plugs, which eventually led to an intermittently failing coil-pack. Replaced the gasket, cleaned out the plug hole, replaced the CP... oddly enough, the spark plug was A-OK.
Old 12-10-2018, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by PNW_IPL
this. While i dont misfire yet i changed the plugs and noticed bank 2 and 4 have oil. Definitely check the valve cover gaskets
Just noticed a week ago during a spark plug change. No misfires as well just some noticeable residue so I think I caught mine right at the beginning.
Old 12-10-2018, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by RMB5190
Just noticed a week ago during a spark plug change. No misfires as well just some noticeable residue so I think I caught mine right at the beginning.
what sucks is that i have to replace the valve cover. Vq35HR.
and in order to keep an eye on it the TB has to be removed. I need to suck it up and complete this job. Going to try and hold off until spring/ warmer weather.
Old 12-10-2018, 11:27 AM
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I've already committed and have ordered the parts. I figure one morning I'll crawl out to the garage and fire up the heaters for a few hours before taking the plunge.
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Will the VQ37 out of a 2016 QX50 be compatible with my 2009 G37x? No definitive answers on the forum for that one.
Old 12-12-2018, 10:01 AM
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I don't see why it wouldn't be. Same exact motor and front differential gears...should be a plug and play.
Old 12-12-2018, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Gabebapes
has the car sat for extended period of time?
if the intake swap to stock didnt help i would start with the basic. At this point you need to try anything you can. Assuming the stock intakes are back on i would do a spark test make sure spark plugs are clean and no injectors are leaky, coils are good etc, also check fuel pressure for fuel pump, see if injectors all click, gas is good.
Ive had an issue like this it ended up being the fuel pump but the dealer picked it up on they're scanner.
The one sensor it could be is the maf or map since it picks up manifold pressure and tells the computer what mixture to send out.
Originally Posted by RMB5190
Out of curiosity, was there any oil inside of the banks of the plugs? if you have a leaking valve cover gasket, then oil could be seeping into those banks and fouling the plugs. At 160k miles it could be a possibility. I'm experiencing the issue now at 80k
First off, any of those shops should have had a decent scanner to check each cylinder to narrow it down. When it misfires it's recorded and reported to the computer which is why you get a CEL. A higher end scanner will tell you exactly which cylinder is misfiring. You then attack that cylinder. plugs, coil pack, injector.

My Audi also had a leaking valve cover gasket that fouled out the plugs and caused serious misfire.

A stuck open injector can flood and cause a misfire also, and has done so on some vehicles. On the flip side a clogged injector can starve the cylinder at idle but provide enough fuel at WOT to not register a misfire. It can be cleaned and tested but fuel injectors start at $35 and I would just replace it.... on the BAD cylinder in question.

Originally Posted by LPV36
Will the VQ37 out of a 2016 QX50 be compatible with my 2009 G37x? No definitive answers on the forum for that one.

No freak'in way. I can tell you over the 7 years difference between those two cars that there has been dozens of minute changes that we will never see. What are those changes? I don't know, but I work in engineering, and if I can tell you anything its that engineers never leave anything alone. They are constantly tweaking.

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Old 12-12-2018, 03:01 PM
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Except it didn't change....the only change in a decade was a gasket in '12.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_VQ_engine#VQ37VHR

The stagnant powertrain was a gripe until the new 3.0tt replaced the 3.7. Typically, I'd agree with you, especially if this was a German car but it's the same motor.

I'd recommend taking a peak into your banks quickly before buying a new motor OP....A shop will have that completed in 3-4 hours and the gasket is $25 bucks. $450 repair vs $$$ motor + install.
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