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SPOHN 03-26-2008 03:55 PM

Man, you beat me to it. I wanted to post this last weekend and didn't get around to it. Great info. It's crazy how now the valves now control all air intake. Like a throttle body would. Even though it still uses the throttle body for other small functions. This is my understanding of it. I also read that in the next couple years there going to combine this with direct fuel injection. Nice.

vINCe_Inc 03-26-2008 04:13 PM

someone soup-up that dc motor pls !
where's krazy J, tell him he can get crazy hp gains if he swaps out the dc motor with something bigger.
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i dont really get direct fuel injection ... still.

cvt 03-26-2008 04:17 PM

i don't understand...my dealer told me the way VVEL works was that nissan implemented rabid hampsters on treadmills up on the cam area to help us power to 330hp.

my question is...there are no mention of the hampsters??

DiamondGCoupe 03-26-2008 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by cvt (Post 2297653)
i don't understand...my dealer told me the way VVEL works was that nissan implemented rabid hampsters on treadmills up on the cam area to help us power to 330hp.

my question is...there are no mention of the hampsters??

They're on strike.

cvt 03-26-2008 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by DiamondGCoupe (Post 2297655)
They're on strike.

no wonder my V-TEC wasn't kickin'...

IcebergG 03-26-2008 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by cvt (Post 2297653)
i don't understand...my dealer told me the way VVEL works was that nissan implemented rabid hampsters on treadmills up on the cam area to help us power to 330hp.

my question is...there are no mention of the hampsters??

LMFAO! You guys are too funny :icon17:

vINCe_Inc 03-26-2008 11:19 PM

so is vvel comparable to mivec ?

3des 03-26-2008 11:21 PM

I wonder what would happen if that dc motor were to fail...!?

OPen Class 03-26-2008 11:33 PM


Originally Posted by SnD (Post 2297250)
Interesting! Why that wasn't written by a native English speaker, I only wonder....

As for the actual technology, it looks like the valve is adjusted by a dc motor turning a screwed gear? How on earth is that fast enough to respond to a rapidly revving engine?

From the sound of that presentation, you'd think we'd be getting a 100HP+ gain over the previous engine.....

Well, BMW had to twin turbo to get 300 hp out of their 6 cyl. We get 330 without the added risk/heat/$$ associated with twin turbos.

Not bad numbers IMO.

TerribleONE453 03-27-2008 02:45 AM

http://youtube.com/watch?v=n_R_w3AB288&feature=related

watch the end guys... V-TECH!

cvt 03-27-2008 02:50 AM


Originally Posted by TerribleONE453 (Post 2298088)

OMG it sounds just like that...was was neat..LOL :bowrofl:

override00 03-27-2008 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by OPen Class (Post 2297992)
Well, BMW had to twin turbo to get 300 hp out of their 6 cyl. We get 330 without the added risk/heat/$$ associated with twin turbos.

Not bad numbers IMO.

until 2006 BMW had a 3.2 I6 making 333 bhp .... they didn't have to go turbo, they chose to.

cvt 03-27-2008 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by override00 (Post 2298148)
until 2006 BMW had a 3.2 I6 making 333 bhp .... they didn't have to go turbo, they chose to.

they chose to and they HAD to.

that 3.2 making 333hp was in a car that sold for $50-$55K. if they want a sub-M car starting at $42K making todays standards of 300hp they needed to either bump the displacement or go FI. they chose the easiest route...platform share from a 328i and turbo...which let to amazing results.

override00 03-27-2008 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by cvt (Post 2298169)
they chose to and they HAD to.

that 3.2 making 333hp was in a car that sold for $50-$55K. if they want a sub-M car starting at $42K making todays standards of 300hp they needed to either bump the displacement or go FI. they chose the easiest route...platform share from a 328i and turbo...which let to amazing results.

Dude... You just agreed with me they didn't HAVE to go turbo, they could have just gone up in displacement. ... lol

cvt 03-27-2008 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by override00 (Post 2298190)
Dude... You just agreed with me they didn't HAVE to go turbo, they could have just gone up in displacement. ... lol

i DO agree with you...i never mentioned i didn't...:dunno:


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