Brakes, Suspension, Wheels & Tires
Rollers and Rubbers (View All Posts)

Staggered to Square

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-20-2018, 12:33 PM
  #1  
GeezerB
Registered Member
Thread Starter
 
GeezerB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: West Hills, CA
Posts: 421
Received 29 Likes on 26 Posts
Staggered to Square

Wheel pros I need your help! I have a 2012 sedan sport model with staggered stock setup. I was thinking of going to a square setup so all my wheels sizes match.
Do I need 2 new rims? Do I get all 4 matching the wide rear tire or matching the front?
Is the staggered setup just for looks or is there some performance gain?
Thanks for any reply. I need new tires. That will be my next post
Old 07-20-2018, 02:40 PM
  #2  
slartibartfast
Super Moderator
iTrader: (7)
 
slartibartfast's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Houston, Tx
Posts: 6,090
Received 836 Likes on 715 Posts
There will be a slight improvement in braking if you go with the wider set. That said, tire compound will have more of an effect than tire size. In addition, if you track your car, you'll have less front tire slip in turns, aka less understeer.

The most important criterion is if you have a Sport with the Akebono brakes. Stock sport rear wheels will fit, but you will have to be careful makimg sure aftermarket wheels will clear the front calipers.
Old 07-20-2018, 05:13 PM
  #3  
GeezerB
Registered Member
Thread Starter
 
GeezerB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: West Hills, CA
Posts: 421
Received 29 Likes on 26 Posts
Originally Posted by slartibartfast
There will be a slight improvement in braking if you go with the wider set. That said, tire compound will have more of an effect than tire size. In addition, if you track your car, you'll have less front tire slip in turns, aka less understeer.

The most important criterion is if you have a Sport with the Akebono brakes. Stock sport rear wheels will fit, but you will have to be careful makimg sure aftermarket wheels will clear the front calipers.
Yes I have the big brakes. My concern is with the stock rims. Are the front & rear different widths? Will my 4 stock rims accept either tire size? That's my real concern.
Old 07-20-2018, 06:39 PM
  #4  
blnewt
Movin On!
iTrader: (13)
 
blnewt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 24,877
Received 4,941 Likes on 4,174 Posts
Originally Posted by GeezerB
Yes I have the big brakes. My concern is with the stock rims. Are the front & rear different widths? Will my 4 stock rims accept either tire size? That's my real concern.
The stock Sport Sedan wheels are 18x7.5 front 18x8.5 rear. If you do decide to square it up I'd for sure go w/ 4 rear wheels, then you can run quite a bit more tire. With the 7.5" front you're pretty much locked in to that 225 width, not a great setup on all 4.
The following users liked this post:
GeezerB (07-23-2018)
Old 07-20-2018, 06:54 PM
  #5  
slartibartfast
Super Moderator
iTrader: (7)
 
slartibartfast's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Houston, Tx
Posts: 6,090
Received 836 Likes on 715 Posts
I went with coupe wheels (staggered) to gain an inch width both front and rear. Tires are more expensive but I'm willing to pay the price for the extra grip. The down side is I can't rotate the tires.
Old 08-29-2018, 05:04 PM
  #6  
GeezerB
Registered Member
Thread Starter
 
GeezerB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: West Hills, CA
Posts: 421
Received 29 Likes on 26 Posts
After a lot of research I decided to stick with the staggered setup. I just ordered 4 Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires. These have great ratings & reviews. Paying more than my comfort zone but I am tired of losing traction. This is my third set of tires & I have only 40,600 miles ! Is this normal wear?
Old 08-29-2018, 07:14 PM
  #7  
slartibartfast
Super Moderator
iTrader: (7)
 
slartibartfast's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Houston, Tx
Posts: 6,090
Received 836 Likes on 715 Posts
It's not abnormal if you drive enthusiastically.
Old 08-29-2018, 07:37 PM
  #8  
Boomer-Bob
Registered Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Boomer-Bob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: In fear
Posts: 699
Received 10 Likes on 6 Posts
Originally Posted by GeezerB
After a lot of research I decided to stick with the staggered setup. I just ordered 4 Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires. These have great ratings & reviews. Paying more than my comfort zone but I am tired of losing traction. This is my third set of tires & I have only 40,600 miles ! Is this normal wear?
It's not about how many miles your tires go, it's about the journey. ;-)
Old 09-04-2018, 07:17 PM
  #9  
GeezerB
Registered Member
Thread Starter
 
GeezerB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: West Hills, CA
Posts: 421
Received 29 Likes on 26 Posts
Done! Great tires
Old 09-04-2018, 09:57 PM
  #10  
blnewt
Movin On!
iTrader: (13)
 
blnewt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 24,877
Received 4,941 Likes on 4,174 Posts
Nice setup, as per your normal 16.5k miles per set (assuming at 40k miles your 3rd set was shot) you should get a bit more miles since you now can do full 4 wheel rotations. Let us know how they look a year from now
Old 09-04-2018, 11:07 PM
  #11  
GeezerB
Registered Member
Thread Starter
 
GeezerB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: West Hills, CA
Posts: 421
Received 29 Likes on 26 Posts
Originally Posted by blnewt
Nice setup, as per your normal 16.5k miles per set (assuming at 40k miles your 3rd set was shot) you should get a bit more miles since you now can do full 4 wheel rotations. Let us know how they look a year from now
You missed the post stating I'm sticking with the staggered.
Old 09-04-2018, 11:45 PM
  #12  
blnewt
Movin On!
iTrader: (13)
 
blnewt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 24,877
Received 4,941 Likes on 4,174 Posts
lol, well, hopefully you'll still get the mileage you've been getting and can't deny the added performance from Pilot SS!
Old 08-22-2019, 06:10 PM
  #13  
GeezerB
Registered Member
Thread Starter
 
GeezerB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: West Hills, CA
Posts: 421
Received 29 Likes on 26 Posts
Help. I took my Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires to the same place I bought them & asked for a tire rotation. Since I am staggered, I thought you can switch L front to R front & same with rears as long as they stay synced by size. The guy said they can't be rotated.
Are these directional? That would be the only reason to prevent this. Is he right? Great tires BTW.
Old 08-22-2019, 06:52 PM
  #14  
Surfnazi
Registered Member
 
Surfnazi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 2,110
Received 176 Likes on 165 Posts
You can swap left to right just not front to back
Old 08-23-2019, 10:24 AM
  #15  
Conboss
Registered Member
 
Conboss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 455
Received 32 Likes on 31 Posts
^Yup. If they are directional then they might have to pop them off the rim and turn em around, but that should be it.


Quick Reply: Staggered to Square



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:46 PM.