Softening Tein street basis coilovers.
#1
Softening Tein street basis coilovers.
hello, guys!
I recently got a child seat occupant in my car really happy about it! but I am not so happy about my coil overs comfort level anymore.
I have tein basis and these are not true coil overs so in order to make the ride softer, I will have to go lower. I don't want to go lower, it takes away my car's usability.
For the rear side, I am thinking about swapping tein springs with stock springs, while leaving everything else in.
Right now my spring seats are at about 75% height so if I put longer stock springs, put lowest settings on spring seats and use tein top mount which is flat, should I be sitting at close to what I have?
or altogether this is a very bad idea? lol
I recently got a child seat occupant in my car really happy about it! but I am not so happy about my coil overs comfort level anymore.
I have tein basis and these are not true coil overs so in order to make the ride softer, I will have to go lower. I don't want to go lower, it takes away my car's usability.
For the rear side, I am thinking about swapping tein springs with stock springs, while leaving everything else in.
Right now my spring seats are at about 75% height so if I put longer stock springs, put lowest settings on spring seats and use tein top mount which is flat, should I be sitting at close to what I have?
or altogether this is a very bad idea? lol
Last edited by main_shoby; 06-26-2017 at 02:06 PM.
#3
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Guess no one wants to recommend mixing the parts, you could give it a try but the Teins are already the softest spring rate coilovers, so I'd imagine going even softer you'd hit the stops a lot more. Coilovers are an acquired taste, I wasn't really happy w/ the firm ride but now it's less dramatic since I've grown accustomed to them.
As far as the longer OEM springs fitting, they'll fit but that OEM rubber top cone cushion/seat probably won't be as tall as the fully lowered coilover mount so it'll probably be too high, even fully lowered I'm guessing.
As far as the longer OEM springs fitting, they'll fit but that OEM rubber top cone cushion/seat probably won't be as tall as the fully lowered coilover mount so it'll probably be too high, even fully lowered I'm guessing.
Last edited by blnewt; 06-27-2017 at 04:04 PM.
#4
Guess no one wants to recommend mixing the parts, you could give it a try but the Teins are already the softest spring rate coilovers, so I'd imagine going even softer you'd hit the stops a lot more. Coilovers are an acquired taste, I wasn't really happy w/ the firm ride but now it's less dramatic since I've grown accustomed to them.
As far as the longer OEM springs fitting, they'll fit but that OEM rubber top cone cushion/seat probably won't be as tall as the fully lowered coilover mount so it'll probably be too high, even fully lowered I'm guessing.
As far as the longer OEM springs fitting, they'll fit but that OEM rubber top cone cushion/seat probably won't be as tall as the fully lowered coilover mount so it'll probably be too high, even fully lowered I'm guessing.
I personaly am okay with the ride stiffness, I like it but I suspect that its probably too stiff for my little girl
now 2nd option would be this:
right now I am at 75% height on spring seats (perches?) its because I like the car height there but this also causes the car to be stiffer.
If I reduce the height, its going to reduce stiffness too.
so imagine a case where i take the perches to lowest settings so i can have max softness and then add some kind of spacer to increase height?
just thinking :/
PS: lol wont it be the same thing as increasing height on perches? rofl?
#6
thats how tein street basis work. you add / reduce height by compressing the spring itself. there is no height adjustment to the strut. so when you add height you need to compress the spring (adding stiffness) and when you reduce height you free up the spring, reducing stiffnees.
#7
thats how tein street basis work. you add / reduce height by compressing the spring itself. there is no height adjustment to the strut. so when you add height you need to compress the spring (adding stiffness) and when you reduce height you free up the spring, reducing stiffnees.
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#9
That is very much not how springs work. Your perception of ride stiffness is a combination of the springs actual rate, the damping characteristics of the shock, and a few other factors. Changing the ride height doesn't compress the spring anymore. That is a function of how much weight is on the spring.
My aim is to reduce stiffness from rear suspension. In my mind uncompromising the spring will reduce stiffness and as a fact it does reduce height. Looking for a solution :/
#10
Adjusting the ride height merely changes the mounting point for the spring. Grab a ruler and you'll find the total height of the spring is the same (or nearly the same) at all ride heights.
#12
I believe you can use the large stock isolator with the teins. I'm 90% certain that my buddy has his mounted that way. IIRC I told him to set it up that wasy based off a recomendation I read here.
#13
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I use the stock isolators, top and bottom, with mine. Part of the problem is the rear linkage and it's ark. It necessitates going crazy soft with spring rate to get an acceptable ride in the rear. At the expense of handling of course.
The Street Basis doesn't have an independent height adjustment. Adjustments affect the preload. Lowering the car will increase the preload (compressing) the spring. Not much, but lowering them will compress the spring. Raising the car will do just the opposite. There's an optimal preload range that Tein suggests. You'll get the best ride out of that particular model by adhering to their suggestion.
The Street Basis doesn't have an independent height adjustment. Adjustments affect the preload. Lowering the car will increase the preload (compressing) the spring. Not much, but lowering them will compress the spring. Raising the car will do just the opposite. There's an optimal preload range that Tein suggests. You'll get the best ride out of that particular model by adhering to their suggestion.
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The Street Basis doesn't have an independent height adjustment. Adjustments affect the preload. Lowering the car will increase the preload (compressing) the spring. Not much, but lowering them will compress the spring. Raising the car will do just the opposite. There's an optimal preload range that Tein suggests. You'll get the best ride out of that particular model by adhering to their suggestion.
Last edited by Crazyirish; 06-29-2017 at 10:49 AM.