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Old 02-14-2018, 12:31 PM   #31
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Fwiw I feel a significant difference in pedal feel and feedback with the MC brace..
I noticed a difference too, although IDK that I'd call it significant.

I think there is a cumulative impact of mods, where you reach diminishing returns. Pretty sure 4DRZ has stainless brake lines, which probably stiffen up the pedal such that the MCB has less or even no impact than those of us not running SS brake lines.
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Old 02-14-2018, 12:36 PM   #32
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Coming from mushy brakes mine was significant. True about stainless lines I have yet to do them.
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I noticed a difference too, although IDK that I'd call it significant.

I think there is a cumulative impact of mods, where you reach diminishing returns. Pretty sure 4DRZ has stainless brake lines, which probably stiffen up the pedal such that the MCB has less or even no impact than those of us not running SS brake lines.
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Coming from mushy brakes mine was significant. True about stainless lines I have yet to do them.
both good to know, very true about diminishing returns...I try to temper my expectations... I have stainless lines on mine so maybe I wont feel it as much ...at this point its more of a tinkering project than a necessity but it is more rewarding if I actually feel a difference
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at this point its more of a desire to tear up my knuckles than a necessity but it is more rewarding if I actually feel a difference and have the scars to match
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Old 02-14-2018, 08:48 PM   #36
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It was a passion project for me too... after failing and giving up for like 3 tries I knew I had to get the MC brace in.

I'll be getting the collars installed next month. New urethane diff bushings are going in at the same time (black streak of death). I'm not sure which I'll feel more, but it will be nice as the diff won't be flopping around everywhere back there.
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Old 02-15-2018, 04:30 PM   #37
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lol, but the challenge, and its so pretty!..shame to hear that...notice any difference on the track?
I was hoping to find out last year, but spent almost the entire year just trying to sort the Z1 tune before I could do any track days.

I have spent so much time with the MC brace already on the street that I am going to really struggle to remember a difference on track from 2 years ago. Unless it is very significant, which I doubt.

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I noticed a difference too, although IDK that I'd call it significant.

I think there is a cumulative impact of mods, where you reach diminishing returns. Pretty sure 4DRZ has stainless brake lines, which probably stiffen up the pedal such that the MCB has less or even no impact than those of us not running SS brake lines.
Yes, I do have SS lines and Motul RBF600 fluid. I noticed a much bigger improvement in pedal feel with the SS lines than the MC brace. So I would put your money into SS lines if I were you.
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Ran my track event this morning.

The Z1 collars were pretty much invisible but I think the car behaved a tad better when using the curbs though the traction control light lit as expected. While they don't make a huge difference for me, just knowing the subframe monkey motions are checked makes me feel good with about their price.
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Well, track day was a lukewarm endorsement. Sheesh.
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Apologies for that. It was what it was. The car may have seemed a little less inclined to power-on oversteer as well as behave a tad better on the curbs. Or, I was a little less aggressive.

Splitter has them, too. I was hoping he would chime in with his thoughts.
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