Review Z1 Motorsports Brake Master Cylinder Brace
05-29-2017, 06:40 PM
#31
I was about to do it last Saturday and I actually looked at the clearance on these things, holy crap, no way my fat mits are gonna fit in there ... theres really almost no room to even get the bracket in there let alone tools, fingers and the screws...i'll try again in the coming weeks when I have more time
05-30-2017, 06:34 AM
#32
I used some "Push Nuts" (see my post #26 in this thread) to hold the bolts to the bracket. They only need to go just far enough onto the bolt to grab hold. Putting them on too far can cause so other issues, don't ask me how I know this.....
I also tied a string around the large adjustment bolt and then lowered the bracket down. Then used a pair of forceps that have an angled tip (bought them at the local fle-market tool vender) to maneuver the bracket to align one of the bolts. With this one bolt somewhat aligned, I was able to get the Allen bit which I had on a flexible extension onto the bolt and get the bolt started. Then moved on to get a second bolt started. Then to get the last bolt started.... (remember I mentioned earlier to only put the Push Nut on just far enough to retain the bolt to the bracket? If you put them on too far, this is where you may run into a problem..... just saying.....)
Hope that this helps.
I also tied a string around the large adjustment bolt and then lowered the bracket down. Then used a pair of forceps that have an angled tip (bought them at the local fle-market tool vender) to maneuver the bracket to align one of the bolts. With this one bolt somewhat aligned, I was able to get the Allen bit which I had on a flexible extension onto the bolt and get the bolt started. Then moved on to get a second bolt started. Then to get the last bolt started.... (remember I mentioned earlier to only put the Push Nut on just far enough to retain the bolt to the bracket? If you put them on too far, this is where you may run into a problem..... just saying.....)
Hope that this helps.
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abrecos (11-26-2020)
05-30-2017, 06:07 PM
#33
I used some "Push Nuts" (see my post #26 in this thread) to hold the bolts to the bracket. They only need to go just far enough onto the bolt to grab hold. Putting them on too far can cause so other issues, don't ask me how I know this.....
I also tied a string around the large adjustment bolt and then lowered the bracket down. Then used a pair of forceps that have an angled tip (bought them at the local fle-market tool vender) to maneuver the bracket to align one of the bolts. With this one bolt somewhat aligned, I was able to get the Allen bit which I had on a flexible extension onto the bolt and get the bolt started. Then moved on to get a second bolt started. Then to get the last bolt started.... (remember I mentioned earlier to only put the Push Nut on just far enough to retain the bolt to the bracket? If you put them on too far, this is where you may run into a problem..... just saying.....)
Hope that this helps.
I also tied a string around the large adjustment bolt and then lowered the bracket down. Then used a pair of forceps that have an angled tip (bought them at the local fle-market tool vender) to maneuver the bracket to align one of the bolts. With this one bolt somewhat aligned, I was able to get the Allen bit which I had on a flexible extension onto the bolt and get the bolt started. Then moved on to get a second bolt started. Then to get the last bolt started.... (remember I mentioned earlier to only put the Push Nut on just far enough to retain the bolt to the bracket? If you put them on too far, this is where you may run into a problem..... just saying.....)
Hope that this helps.
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The Pope (06-02-2017)
06-10-2017, 06:49 PM
#36
What a mess
Got it in. Lost 3 bolts in the abyss. Got two replacement bolts in. Cannot get the middle bolt started.
Anyone elses master seeping when you move the resevoir a tiny bit to get the 19mm wrench on the jam nut?
Normal or abnormal? Also before i started i notice my booster black paint is bubbling from seepage where it meets the master.
Should i remove the brace and take to dealer to replace whatever is leaking? Or is seepage normal?
Anyone elses master seeping when you move the resevoir a tiny bit to get the 19mm wrench on the jam nut?
Normal or abnormal? Also before i started i notice my booster black paint is bubbling from seepage where it meets the master.
Should i remove the brace and take to dealer to replace whatever is leaking? Or is seepage normal?
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abrecos (11-26-2020)
06-16-2017, 04:16 AM
#40
Pull the carpet behind the brake pedal / Master cylinder area and see if you're getting any seepage in the cabin. Brake fluid will eat up your paint in a hurry, so don't ignore the problem if it's there 
If you see brake fluid on any painted surfaces, flush it generously with brake cleaner.
If you see brake fluid on any painted surfaces, flush it generously with brake cleaner.Got it in. Lost 3 bolts in the abyss. Got two replacement bolts in. Cannot get the middle bolt started.
Anyone elses master seeping when you move the resevoir a tiny bit to get the 19mm wrench on the jam nut?
Normal or abnormal? Also before i started i notice my booster black paint is bubbling from seepage where it meets the master.
Should i remove the brace and take to dealer to replace whatever is leaking? Or is seepage normal?
Anyone elses master seeping when you move the resevoir a tiny bit to get the 19mm wrench on the jam nut?
Normal or abnormal? Also before i started i notice my booster black paint is bubbling from seepage where it meets the master.
Should i remove the brace and take to dealer to replace whatever is leaking? Or is seepage normal?
06-16-2017, 11:52 AM
#41
Pull the carpet behind the brake pedal / Master cylinder area and see if you're getting any seepage in the cabin. Brake fluid will eat up your paint in a hurry, so don't ignore the problem if it's there If you see brake fluid on any painted surfaces, flush it generously with brake cleaner.
If you see brake fluid on any painted surfaces, flush it generously with brake cleaner.
07-20-2017, 09:32 AM
#42
I installed this part recently and I can easily say it is a waste of time and money for the street. I can only hope I notice some benefit under threshold braking on track.
It is a major PITA to install and Z1 did not drill the holes correctly so you either get to install the outer two or the middle one, but not all three. I drilled out the middle hole as much as I could without making it so large that the bolt would go all the way through, but that was still not enough to line it up.
I used an extendable magnet to lower down the bolts and then a long hex ball socket to spin them in. Do not drop the bracket as it is aluminum and the magnet will not work to get it back. I wrote more about this "fun" install experience in my build thread, but I would recommend skipping it all together unless you are a track rat.
It is a major PITA to install and Z1 did not drill the holes correctly so you either get to install the outer two or the middle one, but not all three. I drilled out the middle hole as much as I could without making it so large that the bolt would go all the way through, but that was still not enough to line it up.
I used an extendable magnet to lower down the bolts and then a long hex ball socket to spin them in. Do not drop the bracket as it is aluminum and the magnet will not work to get it back. I wrote more about this "fun" install experience in my build thread, but I would recommend skipping it all together unless you are a track rat.
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07-20-2017, 10:56 AM
#43
I think the incremental improvement may be diminished if you're running more aggressive pads, fresh fluid, and SS lines.
I'm running the NISMO pads with titanium backing plates, RBF600 and stock lines and noticed a slightly firmer pedal on initial application. But maybe it's a placebo
07-20-2017, 12:00 PM
#45
What are your existing brake mods?
I think the incremental improvement may be diminished if you're running more aggressive pads, fresh fluid, and SS lines.
I'm running the NISMO pads with titanium backing plates, RBF600 and stock lines and noticed a slightly firmer pedal on initial application. But maybe it's a placebo
I think the incremental improvement may be diminished if you're running more aggressive pads, fresh fluid, and SS lines.
I'm running the NISMO pads with titanium backing plates, RBF600 and stock lines and noticed a slightly firmer pedal on initial application. But maybe it's a placebo
