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07-06-2014, 05:18 PM
#16
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I've been searching through threads and I'm having trouble finding what the max horse these engines can take without new internals etc... can anyone point me in the right direction or help me with some info.
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zigbeats92 (03-27-2023)
07-06-2014, 09:04 PM
#17
Automatic transmissions typically start slipping gears around 400hp, and must be remedied with a valve body upgrade or transmission build. Manual transmissions benefit from an upgrades clutch and flywheel, too.
The motor can take around 375-425 horsepower with stock internals for a while. It depends how the horsepower is delivered. I would feel comfortable saying a supercharged motor can tolerate 425hp with stock internals, but I would not say the same with a turbo. Turbo design generally slams engine components harder than a supercharger, so it wears parts more. Anything high 300's and up will eventually blow the motor, the question is how long you can go before it happens.
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GoFightNguyen (07-08-2014)
07-08-2014, 01:31 AM
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If you have an automatic, then the weak point is your transmission. If you have a manual, then the top end of your motor is the weak point.
Automatic transmissions typically start slipping gears around 400hp, and must be remedied with a valve body upgrade or transmission build. Manual transmissions benefit from an upgrades clutch and flywheel, too.
The motor can take around 375-425 horsepower with stock internals for a while. It depends how the horsepower is delivered. I would feel comfortable saying a supercharged motor can tolerate 425hp with stock internals, but I would not say the same with a turbo. Turbo design generally slams engine components harder than a supercharger, so it wears parts more. Anything high 300's and up will eventually blow the motor, the question is how long you can go before it happens.
Automatic transmissions typically start slipping gears around 400hp, and must be remedied with a valve body upgrade or transmission build. Manual transmissions benefit from an upgrades clutch and flywheel, too.
The motor can take around 375-425 horsepower with stock internals for a while. It depends how the horsepower is delivered. I would feel comfortable saying a supercharged motor can tolerate 425hp with stock internals, but I would not say the same with a turbo. Turbo design generally slams engine components harder than a supercharger, so it wears parts more. Anything high 300's and up will eventually blow the motor, the question is how long you can go before it happens.
07-08-2014, 09:20 AM
#20
The numbers I mentioned are to the wheels, but like I said, driving habits, methods of forced induction, and age and condition of the components all play a huge role. You shouldn't trust the opinion of strangers on the internet anyways.
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MidnightDiP (07-08-2014)
07-08-2014, 09:43 AM
#21
Added some stuff about interior mods available, and linked to Stoof's air ride post rather than retyping it.
I'm out of space in that post, any way the Mods can insert another post for me directly underneath the first one for me to continue adding stuff?
I'm out of space in that post, any way the Mods can insert another post for me directly underneath the first one for me to continue adding stuff?
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07-08-2014, 10:49 AM
#24
Again great job.
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MidnightDiP (07-08-2014)
07-08-2014, 01:23 PM
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Unless you know the guy personally, or it's someone *really* well vetted on the forum, I would avoid buying used forced induction kits. The manufacturer may be very reputable, but the condition of a turbo or super kit depends hugely on the install, the tune, and the driving habits. Unfortunately, there is seldom any good way to verify. Ultimately, it is on you if you buy a turbo kit that craps out after 1000 miles, and you could be out a serious amount of money on top of whatever damage it might do to your engine.
The numbers I mentioned are to the wheels, but like I said, driving habits, methods of forced induction, and age and condition of the components all play a huge role. You shouldn't trust the opinion of strangers on the internet anyways.
The numbers I mentioned are to the wheels, but like I said, driving habits, methods of forced induction, and age and condition of the components all play a huge role. You shouldn't trust the opinion of strangers on the internet anyways.
08-07-2014, 12:29 PM
#29
Excellent post GFN! I think Black Betty got tired of corralling noobs so good on ya! Hope they read and heed, but at the end of the day many opt to blast a post out to the entire forum - "What should I do?" Self-motivated research requires effort, LOL.
08-07-2014, 12:40 PM
#30
I've started to simply ignore a lot more threads than I used to. It keeps me sane and lets me use more of my time on the forum to benefit myself by learning from others and helping people out the people who are deserving of help, that actually have an intelligent question or have at least tried to find information first before asking for someone to point them to something that's already posted here as plain as day.