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Old 08-08-2015, 04:46 PM
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Ride height and wheel gap height

So I just installed some BC coilovers and had them adjusted. I'm having an issue and I do not know if it is suspension related or whether or not its an alignment issue. The rear ride height measurements are even equaling 25' from the floor to the fender on each side. The problem I am having is that even though the heights are the same, the wheel gaps are not. The LR wheel gap is about 1.5 inches higher. Has anyone ever had this problem or can any one help me here?? I made sure the struts and the perches were measured equally before installing them on each side. Cars never been in an accident either. Should I just get an alignment to make sure my toe and camber and everything else is in alignment?
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I'm trying to wrap my head around the issue you are having.

Let's recap:
You measured from the ground to the apex of the fender and the values matched at 25" each side.
You then measured gap between apex of tire and fender and got a value with 1.5" deviation.
Is this correct? Would you take a few pictures, please? Basically, show the measuring tools in each location. Also, verify level ground beyond just using your eyes. e.g. bubble level

Something doesn't measure up.
Old 08-08-2015, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by nelledge
I'm trying to wrap my head around the issue you are having.

Let's recap:
You measured from the ground to the apex of the fender and the values matched at 25" each side.
You then measured gap between apex of tire and fender and got a value with 1.5" deviation.
Is this correct? Would you take a few pictures, please? Basically, show the measuring tools in each location. Also, verify level ground beyond just using your eyes. e.g. bubble level

Something doesn't measure up.
Correct. I can't take pictures right now because I am not home but yes I know it does not make sense. Would a difference in the camber and toe from the right side possibly cause this issue? I know I need an alignment as well because my steering wheel is off centered to the right a tad.
Old 08-08-2015, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ohmyg1990
Correct. I can't take pictures right now because I am not home but yes I know it does not make sense. Would a difference in the camber and toe from the right side possibly cause this issue? I know I need an alignment as well because my steering wheel is off centered to the right a tad.
It would take quite a bit of camber difference to create the 1.5" deviation you stated. Surely, you'd be able to visually see camber that far off from one side to the other?
Old 08-08-2015, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by nelledge
It would take quite a bit of camber difference to create the 1.5" deviation you stated. Surely, you'd be able to visually see camber that far off from one side to the other?
Yea that's what I figured. Its been super frustrating. All measurements were taken on level ground in my buddies garage with a tape measure as well.
Old 08-08-2015, 06:25 PM
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Hmmm, at 25" to the fender you shouldn't have any fender gap, that's some slammed stance, your tires should be tucked about an inch up into the fender well at 25". I'm at zero gap and I'm running 26.25" to the fender F&R.

I'm probably just missing the concept but please post some pics so we can all figure this out for you.

Is it possible one of your rear springs isn't down into the indent on the spring bucket (aka rear control arm)?
Old 08-08-2015, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by blnewt
Hmmm, at 25" to the fender you shouldn't have any fender gap, that's some slammed stance, your tires should be tucked about an inch up into the fender well at 25". I'm at zero gap and I'm running 26.25" to the fender F&R.

I'm probably just missing the concept but please post some pics so we can all figure this out for you.

Is it possible one of your rear springs isn't down into the indent on the spring bucket (aka rear control arm)?
I will take a pic as soon as I can. Yea that's how the Right Rear sits. Its the LR that has the wheel gap. I will have to check to make sure the spring is in the bucket. I don't see why it wouldn't be in there. I am pretty low. I'm at about 24 3/4-7/8 " give or take in the front and 25" in the rear. Do you think an alignment would fix this issue?
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Are all wheels-tires the same size ? Just asking.
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Originally Posted by slawek65
Are all wheels-tires the same size ? Just asking.
Lol yes 255/30/20
Old 08-09-2015, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ohmyg1990
I will take a pic as soon as I can. Yea that's how the Right Rear sits. Its the LR that has the wheel gap. I will have to check to make sure the spring is in the bucket. I don't see why it wouldn't be in there. I am pretty low. I'm at about 24 3/4-7/8 " give or take in the front and 25" in the rear. Do you think an alignment would fix this issue?
If you're that slammed and haven't had an alignment that would be the first thing on my list, it's got to be way out of spec for toe and camber if you haven't done anything to correct it. Do you have camber kits for the front & rear installed? BTW, if not, please drive very cautiously until you get it addressed.
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Old 08-10-2015, 08:48 AM
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are the fronts even..
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Originally Posted by blnewt
If you're that slammed and haven't had an alignment that would be the first thing on my list, it's got to be way out of spec for toe and camber if you haven't done anything to correct it. Do you have camber kits for the front & rear installed? BTW, if not, please drive very cautiously until you get it addressed.
G/L
Thanks man. I was initally like slammed to where I was bottoming out over any little bump so that's when I raised it to where it is now and since then I've had that gap issue. I think you are right though. My camber and toe probably went way out of spec from the first drop. I'm gonna take it to get an alignment today or tomorrow. I do have the rear camber kit but not in the front. Many people on here said I wouldn't need it for the front.
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Originally Posted by micafd3s
are the fronts even..
Fronts are pretty even. FL is at about 24 3/4 and FR is about 2-3 cm higher not off by much
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Post some pics of this setup, if you're under 25" in front that's still slammed, and you'd definitely need front camber arms if you remain at that height unless you are prepared to replace tires about 3x as frequently.
Just be careful driving that G for the time being.
Old 08-12-2015, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by blnewt
Post some pics of this setup, if you're under 25" in front that's still slammed, and you'd definitely need front camber arms if you remain at that height unless you are prepared to replace tires about 3x as frequently.
Just be careful driving that G for the time being.
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Not sure if you can visit these links but here is a left side and right side comparison so you can see the LR and RR difference.


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