Huaniitoo

I'm at that point where I need new tires but I don't know if I should get some good rain tires or summer tires. I live in northern Cali

Wangstas863

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Summer tires are good in the rain ...

blnewt

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Go to tirerack.com and check the sizes you need, look for Max Performance Summer tires and you should get many choices. Michelin Pilot Super Sports are top dog but come at a price. Other options are Bridgestone S0-4 Pole Positions, Hankook Ventus V12 Evo, BFG Sport Comp 2, Kumho Ecsta Le Sport & PS91, Continental DW Extreme Contact.

Sometimes you can find decent rebates or closeout deals that make it easier to seal the deal.

Huaniitoo

Thanks y'all !

hexotic

Michelin PSS are discontinued theres a new Michelin in town with 20% more grip. Although they still have the PSS in stock and will most likely try to clear them out, might get a discount.

crazjayz

They're not actually discontinued yet. The PS4S is going to be released in phases, so depending on the tire size you run you might not even be able to get them in the next 6 months. They should start going on sale next month though.

For example, they're not even making a 245/45/18 in PS4S, only PSS.

socketz67

I've had PSSs for about 10k now. Prior to buying them, So-CA was in a multi-year drought, warm winters, so they seemed to make sense. Through the summer of 2016, I had no complaints. They were even much quieter than the worn OEM sport/summer tires I replaced. I was never a fan of the look of the sidewall, but I learned to live with the rounded look which seemed to make the tire look smaller than others of the same size.

Of course that has changed recently and we are not only receiving historic precipitation, but also colder temps which accompany the rain. I.e bring on rain apocalypse. In northern CA, it has been much worse.

For me personally, the PSS feels slippery and unpredictable under these conditions. I've had my car for almost 4 years now, so I know it well and can sense when it's ready to let go and understand that I need to avoid obvious obstacles like pools of standing water and pushing it aggressively early in the morning when going up curved streets which are banked wrong (common in CA); it definitely requires a lot more constant processing when you run performance summer tires in the winter.

I'm thinking that I will try some Pilot AS tires next go as they seem to be the best compromise. I'm sure once I buy those, the rain will stop and the temps will settle in above 55 on a constant basis, and I'd wish I'd gone with another set of PSSs.

Jonesmeister11

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In the same boat with my coupe. Subbed

ryanwhite74115

FYI I have the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3's and have tapped out the rear tires at 20k miles. Front's have about 5mm left. Rears, at the safety line, are TOAST. I mean TOAST. I can burn out in a straight line, which never happened at higher mm. Even though I still have treadblocks, it's as if the tire's rubber is just flat out worse or less grippy. I don't know how well I can recommend the tire given the disparity in wear from front to rear and it's cost.

socketz67

Sounds like wear on the AS isn't much better than the PSS. Not sure I'm ready to accept the reality of replacing tires every 15-20k. Is anyone getting 30k out of their tires?

ryanwhite74115

Just to note, I do drive aggressive...so if you grandma it, i'd see 30k easily out of the tires. But I didn't buy a 330hp limited slip sports saloon to drive like a grandma.

Jonesmeister11

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I thought PSS have a 30k warranty?

ryanwhite74115

When the tires are staggered, cut the milage warranty in half.

ezbme

I wish our cars had come with a non staggered 18x8 wheel and 245 all the way around. I am pretty sure the 7.5 will fit a 245 on it. I do wonder what would be the problem putting the 8.5 rim on the front, because if I went 245 in front, I would rotate them. I have the Hankook Ventus Noble 2, it has been good. I was looking at eventually replacing them with the Kuhmo Solus TA71 (Looks like the AS3s), they have pretty good reviews. The Kuhmo LX Platinums are a touring tire (Looks like the MXV4) . If you are going to imitate, imitate the best. If you have the 18s, the LX Platinums are around 90 each at tire rack.

blnewt

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You can physically put a 245 on a 7.5 but it's outside the recommended range and will result in rolling of the sidewalls when really pushed. If you add to this the softer sidewalls of a touring tire it could really make for unpredictable handling when cornering at speed. If you want to run 245s all around sourcing two more rear wheels would be the best plan, or a new set of 18x8.5 to 18x9 for those tires. I'm currently running Kumho Ecsa Le Sport Max performance Summer tires and they've been performing very well for the first 9k miles, and the Kumho Ecsta V720 ACR (the ones that come on the Viper ACRs) have some of the best performance rating of any tire ever tested, so Kumho is making some quality treads these days