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Old 04-29-2016, 11:34 AM
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its all subjective and preference... and for me..
ill take a manual gearbox any day regardless of all the benefits automatics bring to the table...
its just the connection you have with the car having a manual an automatic cant give you..
this is just a personal opinion of mine having tracked and dragged a number of cars with either one.. both for fun and competitively..
although if im at a level of competition where its the difference.. give me the one that will give me the edge..
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Old 04-29-2016, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by GeezerB
OK, just watch the speed bumps....

I feel like that's the best part, it tends to force the.. uh.. situation further...
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Old 04-29-2016, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Upscale Speed
The 7AT in our cars is a great AT IMO. I just upgraded mine with a Level 10 bulletproof valve body and Stillen tranny cooler. I run Motul Multi ATF in it. I also have an Ecutek tune. It shifts very quickly, firmly, but still smooth. It downshifts excellent and doesn't gear hunt anymore. It rev matches very well when braking hard. If I put it into DS mode it hold lower gears much longer than before and kicks down a few gears quickly if I brake hard and I do frequently when I can safely because it's fun as all get out!
Can you point me to info on the Ecutek tune? I'm interested. Does it cost much & will my MPG suffer?
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Old 04-29-2016, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by GeezerB
Can you point me to info on the Ecutek tune? I'm interested. Does it cost much & will my MPG suffer?
I paid $866.00 for an e-tune and the kit. Specialty Z EcuTek ProECU Programming Kit - 370Z/G37
As for MPG, I typically make it two weeks on a full tank. Usually by the end of the second week, I'm running on fumes. Well, today is the end of two weeks for me and I still have 1/4 tank left!
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Old 04-29-2016, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ShuuraRG
I paid $866.00 for an e-tune and the kit. Specialty Z EcuTek ProECU Programming Kit - 370Z/G37
As for MPG, I typically make it two weeks on a full tank. Usually by the end of the second week, I'm running on fumes. Well, today is the end of two weeks for me and I still have 1/4 tank left!
OMG, they are walking distance from my house. I'll give them a call, thanks.
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Old 04-29-2016, 01:46 PM
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OMG, they are walking distance from my house. I'll give them a call, thanks.
I'm working with Sebastian! He's great to work with!
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Old 04-29-2016, 02:00 PM
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The subject of this thread is "why the 7AT is faster than the 6MT" not why one is better or worse. Keep it to the thread title and stop trying to prove whose "stick" is bigger/better.
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Old 04-29-2016, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ShuuraRG
Having gone through tuning with EcuTek, I can say that my 7ATXS performs so well that I no longer pine for a MT. Before putting down the 7AT as boring, slow, etc... try one that has been tuned. It may redefine your opinion of fun.
It's sad that you have to spend money to tune the car to get the trans logic correct. Infiniti has released numerous TSB's and they can't seem to get the transmission right. My wife has a 15 Ford Edge Sport and the transmission downshifts instantly, whereas my G37X takes a good bit of time to process a downshift. If we were next to each other and simply went wide open throttle, I'd get walked and wouldn't catch up.

Like I said, the one downside to a great powertrain 7AT.
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Old 04-29-2016, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by jason05gt
It's sad that you have to spend money to tune the car to get the trans logic correct. Infiniti has released numerous TSB's and they can't seem to get the transmission right. My wife has a 15 Ford Edge Sport and the transmission downshifts instantly, whereas my G37X takes a good bit of time to process a downshift. If we were next to each other and simply went wide open throttle, I'd get walked and wouldn't catch up.

Like I said, the one downside to a great powertrain 7AT.

You have to be way to aggressive with the AT to get it to downshift. DS mode does help a bit but I'm looking into getting a throttle controller just for this spirited drives.

My 07 Saab 95 5AT shifted like a dream. I swear the thing knew what I wanted before I did.
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Old 04-29-2016, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by KAHBOOM
The subject of this thread is "why the 7AT is faster than the 6MT" not why one is better or worse. Keep it to the thread title and stop trying to prove whose "stick" is bigger/better.
Faster = better duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh lol jk don't ban me pls
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Old 04-29-2016, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Lego_Maniac
I was laughing at you referring to automated manual transmissions as the same thing as a traditional torque converter controlled auto.

Being stuck in traffic isn't a big deal. Do it every day. But I don't talk/text/eat/drink/read when I'm driving so it isn't that big of a deal
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I feel the same way. Hard to receive favors with an active clutch pedal
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I just leave it in second gear. Easy enough to stop/start and good for about 65mph
Your humor is contradictory.
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Old 04-29-2016, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by jason05gt
It's sad that you have to spend money to tune the car to get the trans logic correct. Infiniti has released numerous TSB's and they can't seem to get the transmission right. My wife has a 15 Ford Edge Sport and the transmission downshifts instantly, whereas my G37X takes a good bit of time to process a downshift. If we were next to each other and simply went wide open throttle, I'd get walked and wouldn't catch up.

Like I said, the one downside to a great powertrain 7AT.
I agree with that, but I guess they've built/tuned it to the supposed target market. We're the anomaly here with this car.
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Old 04-29-2016, 03:49 PM
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to be on topic and for fun conversation's sake:
the 7AT is not quicker than the 6MT

Drag:
Good luck getting a burn out to warm up the tires.

Drift:
No way you're holding a gear or clutch kicking to upset the rear traction.

Track, Time Trial:
The suspension and brakes will lower your corner entry and exit speeds dramatically.

Track, Wheel to Wheel:
Downshift lag in addition to the Track Time Trial issues.

Street:
We can't talk about that here =P
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Old 04-29-2016, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by p0on
to be on topic and for fun conversation's sake:
the 7AT is not quicker than the 6MT

Drag:
Good luck getting a burn out to warm up the tires.

Drift:
No way you're holding a gear or clutch kicking to upset the rear traction.

Track, Time Trial:
The suspension and brakes will lower your corner entry and exit speeds dramatically.

Track, Wheel to Wheel:
Downshift lag in addition to the Track Time Trial issues.

Street:
We can't talk about that here =P
Drag: Waterbox FTW

Track, Time Trial: Suspension and brakes are the same in a 7AT Sport as the 6MT

Drift: I agree

Track, Wheel to Wheel: MM mitigates downshift lag vs relying on the computer -albeit the advantage still goes to the MT driver because the time between shift input and shift is quicker. But there is still a matter of driver skill that comes to play

Street: I see what you did there :P
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Old 04-29-2016, 06:08 PM
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haha kahboom.

in regard to suspension and brakes, if we were talkin about coupes you'd be right
the AT Sport sedan is just really an appearance package

I have the MT sedan, and still quite upset that they didn't offer a clutch pedal with the AWD
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