For the thousandth time: to strut bar or not to strut bar?

Old 01-30-2015, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Lego_Maniac
Because race car.

I think the Z also has a rear cross brace too.
Race car huh...hopefully potential Z owners can overlook that the Z is only tenths of a second faster to 60mph than the pedestrian G37 sedan
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Old 01-30-2015, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by socketz67
Race car huh...hopefully potential Z owners can overlook that the Z is only tenths of a second faster to 60mph than the pedestrian G37 sedan
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Tenths of a second matter if you live your life 1/4 mile at a time
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Originally Posted by Lego_Maniac
Tenths of a second matter if you live your life 1/4 mile at a time
Absolutely. Also, using a straight-line quarter-mile to qualify what is or isn't a sportscar seems kind of silly. Particularly in the larger context discussing a suspension mod. I've driven a number of 350Z and 370Z over the years, and the Infiniti G is a completely different driving experience, with a pretty serious weight difference. You really feel that weight.
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Originally Posted by Rochester
Absolutely. Also, using a straight-line quarter-mile to qualify what is or isn't a sportscar seems kind of silly. Particularly in the larger context discussing a suspension mod. I've driven a number of 350Z and 370Z over the years, and the Infiniti G is a completely different driving experience, with a pretty serious weight difference. You really feel that weight.

Exactly.

I was being sarcastic with the "because race car" comment, but the reality is, the 370Z is more of a "sports car" than the G. And using 0-60 is an even ****tier metric of a cars performance than the 1/4 or lap times.

Speaking of lap times, Car and Driver Lightening Lap, VIR:

Lightning Lap 2014: Complete LL Times 2006 to 2014 ? Feature ? Car and Driver

3:12.0 NISSAN NISMO 370Z
3:12.5 NISSAN 350Z TRACK
3:17.5 INFINITI G37 COUPE SPORT

5 seconds. That is an absolute stomping on the same track.

And 0-60 and other stuff:

370Z Auto:
2015 Nissan 370Z NISMO Automatic ? Review ? Car and Driver

G37S 6MT
http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...powertrain.pdf

1.5 seconds to 100. Pretty much exactly what you would expect for identically powered cars: the lighter weight car walks away as speeds rise.
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Damn. This post kind of brought me to the same conclusion I was already thinking. Strut bar makes a difference for some people and others say minimal if any difference. Hmm... would other suspension bracing be a better investment of $200-300?

I'm thinking the rear lower tie brace, rear lower lateral brace (M shape), and/or front two point subframe brace? Anyone have any comments on one or all of these being a better buy than the strut bar? I was hoping BlackBetty would jump in since the word on the street is that he has all of them, haha.

Braces found on GTSpec website @ http://www.gtspec.com/catalog/produc...initi/2008-g37 but can be found cheaper elsewhere.

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Old 01-31-2015, 12:31 AM
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Found this post awhile ago regarding which chasis brace to get. https://www.myg37.com/forums/brakes-...ml#post2490200

I also drive an X sedan. When i get the money ill be looking into m brace, 6 pt brace and rear tie brace.
Old 01-31-2015, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by txg37x
Hmm... would other suspension bracing be a better investment of $200-300?
I would think those funds would be better applied to summer tires--assuming you don't already have them--or coilovers, from a handling ROI perspective.
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Originally Posted by Lego_Maniac
I would think those funds would be better applied to summer tires--assuming you don't already have them--or coilovers, from a handling ROI perspective.
Tires. That's always good advice.

How many times have you lurked through the GT-Spec products and considered one or more of those subframe braces? I know I have. Thing is, they get almost no attention here on this forum.



And on a lowered car, you have to consider which ones compromise clearance. Hmm.

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Old 01-31-2015, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Rochester
How many times have you lurked through the GT-Spec products and considered one or more of those subframe braces?
Honestly, never, although I knew they existed. For my 100% street driven car, I just don't see a need. You could easily bolt on $1000 worth of braces, and from my perspective, I just don't see them making a $1000 difference to my driving experience.

I've reached my desired handling goals with the Konis, and I have other hobbies that I'd rather dump the grand into.

FWIW though, I think those chassis braces are going to be a more noticeable improvement than say, a STB.


Originally Posted by Rochester
And on a lowered car, you have to consider which ones compromise clearance. Hmm.
There are some pretty good reviews over on the 370 boards. They definitely compromise ground clearance though.
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Originally Posted by Rochester
Tires. That's always good advice.

How many times have you lurked through the GT-Spec products and considered one or more of those subframe braces? I know I have. Thing is, they get almost no attention here on this forum.



And on a lowered car, you have to consider which ones compromise clearance. Hmm.
^This. I figure why not. As mentioned earlier, I already have Michelin PSS tires, hotchkis sways, and lowered on swifts. The handling is solid on the autocross course, but I wanted to know what should be next for the money. Over the next year or so, maybe I'll end up with the full braces, end links, and new shocks, but I was just looking for something to order this week.

Rochester: I remember reading that someone had some clearance issues with the 6 point rear brace, but he was lowered; no word on the other braces.
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From the pics, it looks like most of their braces compromise clearance...

...except perhaps for the pair of Front Subframe Tie-braces:

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Originally Posted by Rochester
From the pics, it looks like most of their braces compromise clearance...

...except perhaps for the pair of Front Subframe Tie-braces:

A pair of these, and upper strut brace, locks the from frame down stiff:

G37 Vert braces, they cost less than aftermarket, and full clearance.
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And this instead of a rear brace:

From a G37 Vert
All 370Zs have this

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TVPostSound, can you talk to that some more, please?

That Vert front brace... This is first time I've heard of this mod.

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Engine Cradle Bracket 544C5-1EA0A left-side, 544C4-1EA0A right-side. For the Vert. Approx $76+ shipping for both, OEM and new.

http://www.orderinfinitiparts.com/pa...iagram=3846215

This fits our sedans? It's #13 in this diagram, although I'm having trouble visualizing the connection points to the car's underbody.

Whoops! Here's a thread from Modme, two years ago: https://www.myg37.com/forums/brakes-...g-project.html

TVPostSound, it seems you jumped into that thread a couple years ago. Geeze, I'm playing catch-up on this stuff. LOL


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Originally Posted by Lego_Maniac

Tenths of a second matter if you live your life stop light to stop light
FTFY

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