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Old 12-04-2016, 11:38 PM
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Disappointed with handling

Does anyone else agree with me that the g37 coupe is not at all impressive around the corners?

This is the first 2 door car I've ever owned and so I was expecting it to handle better than my previous cars. I was wrong, and it's kind of saddening.

I've owned a 96 Maxima, 03 g35, and 07 g35, all stick sedans. And I swear the maxima was the best handling car! I had 17" rims with good rubber and a rear sway bar and I swear it handled better than my brother's 95 supra! I'm serious.

But anway, I always thought the G coupe looked like it can take turns well, and I'm really shocked at how wrong I was.

I will be ordering some sway bars soon. Can anyone with sway bars share their feedback? Thanks guys
Old 12-05-2016, 12:04 AM
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Sway bar is one of the best mods you can do. Low cost yet significant improvement.
Old 12-05-2016, 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by 13G37xS
Does anyone else agree with me that the g37 coupe is not at all impressive around the corners?

This is the first 2 door car I've ever owned and so I was expecting it to handle better than my previous cars. I was wrong, and it's kind of saddening.

I've owned a 96 Maxima, 03 g35, and 07 g35, all stick sedans. And I swear the maxima was the best handling car! I had 17" rims with good rubber and a rear sway bar and I swear it handled better than my brother's 95 supra! I'm serious.

But anway, I always thought the G coupe looked like it can take turns well, and I'm really shocked at how wrong I was.

I will be ordering some sway bars soon. Can anyone with sway bars share their feedback? Thanks guys
The comparison to the Maxima doesn't seem like an apples to apples comparison because of the tires and rear sway bar. I wouldn't even begin to know where to start since we don't know what condition your G is in. Is it stock? What kind of tires are on there? Are they worn? What condition is your suspension in? You get where I'm going here.

I have not driven a G37xS so I can't say. My personal experience with G37S doesn't exactly reflect yours. I owned a 03 G35 sedan 6MT for 10 years and can confidently say the G37S is a much better handling car stock vs stock. Chassis rigidity has improved a ton from its predecessor. I have also had the pleasure of owning the 90 300ZX /w adjustable Tokico dampers and an 90 Maxima for some time. Both are not better handling cars.

Not to say that the G37 is the best handling car ever. I've driven in a whole host of better and worse handling cars in my life. The G37 is somewhere in the middle in stock form. The best handling cars I've personally driven in stock form were the S2K and the Lotus Elise. These are super light cars that the G37 will never be. That's why I've upgraded my suspension to get close.

TL;DR: Would love to hear your thoughts after installing sway bars and sticky summer tires.
Old 12-05-2016, 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by FlashGuy
The comparison to the Maxima doesn't seem like an apples to apples comparison because of the tires and rear sway bar. I wouldn't even begin to know where to start since we don't know what condition your G is in. Is it stock? What kind of tires are on there? Are they worn? What condition is your suspension in? You get where I'm going here.

I have not driven a G37xS so I can't say. My personal experience with G37S doesn't exactly reflect yours. I owned a 03 G35 sedan 6MT for 10 years and can confidently say the G37S is a much better handling car stock vs stock. Chassis rigidity has improved a ton from its predecessor. I have also had the pleasure of owning the 90 300ZX /w adjustable Tokico dampers and an 90 Maxima for some time. Both are not better handling cars.

Not to say that the G37 is the best handling car ever. I've driven in a whole host of better and worse handling cars in my life. The G37 is somewhere in the middle in stock form. The best handling cars I've personally driven in stock form were the S2K and the Lotus Elise. These are super light cars that the G37 will never be. That's why I've upgraded my suspension to get close.

TL;DR: Would love to hear your thoughts after installing sway bars and sticky summer tires.
My car has 54k miles. The tires are a month old kumho ecstas on the stock 19" enkei wheels. Everything is stock.

I hear you man, but I am just shocked that a 17 year old Maxima with rims and sway bar felt tighter than my G coupe.
Old 12-05-2016, 01:40 AM
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well seeing that the curb weight on the maxima is a touch over 3k lbs, i am not surprised its handled better even in stock form. Your 13 g37xs weights a little over 3800 lbs. 800 lbs is hard to get around a corner.
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I owned a 96 Maxima for many years. If you think that FWD understeering pig handles better than a G37 coupe I don't think that there's anything anyone can tell you. You must have gotten a broken one. Or maybe the crappy tires are to blame.
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Old 12-05-2016, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Black Betty
I owned a 96 Maxima for many years. If you think that FWD understeering pig handles better than a G37 coupe I don't think that there's anything anyone can tell you. You must have gotten a broken one. Or maybe the crappy tires are to blame.
Was waiting for a post like this lol. "Pig" and "broken one" hahaha nice

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Old 12-05-2016, 08:07 AM
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I've driven some twisties with S2000's and never had a problem staying with them. Once I was even complimented on well the car remained flat on turns, they told me that it seemed to stay planted better than their BMW.
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Originally Posted by hurleyguys
well seeing that the curb weight on the maxima is a touch over 3k lbs, i am not surprised its handled better even in stock form. Your 13 g37xs weights a little over 3800 lbs. 800 lbs is hard to get around a corner.
Correct. I drag raced my "Maxipad" (as my friends used to call it lol) about 50 times and I would weigh it after each run: 3,190 lbs if I remember correctly (with me in it, removed spare/jack/passenger seat, low gas). Best was 14.7 @ 93 with intake/y pipe. HAHA man those were fun times back in college!

As for the G, yup 3,800 lbs, I know

I still would like to hear from people who have sway bars please! Thanks...
Old 12-05-2016, 08:21 AM
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i also have a '13 xS coupe.

coming from an Evo X (MR, with the factory Bilstein struts / Eibach springs), i never felt that the G was lacking in handling. in fact, i was surprised how well it did handle compared to the smaller, lighter Evo (which was named best handling car under $40k by Car and Driver. even beat the go-kart Miata).
Old 12-05-2016, 09:54 AM
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I'm going to have to side with most everyone else:

Yeah, the 37x is a big girl but it takes little (in the sense of money for parts and physical work) to get her to a state where you can throw her around corners at speeds you would never think of doing in most cars.
Old 12-05-2016, 10:46 AM
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I don't have an x so I can't comment on some aspects of chassis dynamics that are affected by the front differential. In 2wd form, the chassis is vey capable and easy to drive near the limit. I now drive with the VDC off most of the time.

There are a few things I think hamper the stock handling. First, it's a balance between ride quality, NVH and grip/handling. I think most of the G line is undersprung which is why swats make such a difference. I also think it's under tired too, especially at the front.

In your case, with that many miles, alignment is probably off. The Khumos aren't going to have nearly as much stick as a max performance tire either and your stock shocks are now at less than optimal. Better rubber and larger sways with an alignment will make a big difference. Higher spring rates and matching dampers will take it even further. I'd do IPL or Eibach sways first with an alignment and see how you feel about it then.
Old 12-05-2016, 12:09 PM
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I'd like to mention your wheel weight as well...the sport 19s compared to 17s is an absolute joke.
Pretty sure it's near 60lbs per corner with those tires.
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Old 12-05-2016, 12:32 PM
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Hotchkis sway bars will make your car kiss the floor. You won't be disappointed.
Old 12-05-2016, 12:34 PM
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Order yourself a 370 rear sway bar, start there, if not happy then hotchkis F/R.

Most have been happen with g37s/370z rear sway bar, and drop the vehicle a tad on swift springs and I think that will provide significant improvement on a stock setup.

Others mentioned tires..huge part of the equation!

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