Review Stillen Supercharger
08-12-2010, 11:10 PM
#136
Registered User
UPDATE:
For the last couple of weeks we have been off the forums and working diligently on resolving the couple of issues that we have seen. We have been working behind the scenes with the couple of customers that have experienced issues after their supercharger installation. The vast majority of our customers who have received and installed their supercharger systems are on the roads and enjoying their kits. Unfortunately we have had reports from a couple of customer’s experiencing issues that we did not experience on any of the vehicles we tested prior to releasing the kit. We are continuing to work day and night and through the weekends to work on correcting any issues these customer’s have been experiencing.
To date we have been working very hard on the tuning and software that we use. Early in the development of our supercharger system we made the decision to tune via the UpRev software, directly through the factory ECU. In the beginning of the year Jared (UpRev head tuner) and John (UpRev head engineer) both flew out to our shop and trained our guys on how to use their software. This time was vital as the UPrev guys were able to show our engineers the ins and outs of their software and offer tips on what to expect. They spent about a week with our engineering team and everyone felt like we were on the right path and had a great partner to work with. Fortunately, UpRev has been very supportive to aid in correcting these couple of issues. At this time we have arranged to bring Jared out from Texas first thing Monday and he will spend next week working with our team again to correct the issues a couple of our customers are having.
The UpRev software that we are using is identical to the software used by any other UpRev tuner with only one difference that we required. With our software the end user has the ability to upload our flash tune, datalog the performance of their car, pull and read trouble codes, everything that the Osiris/Cipher software can do. The only difference is that we needed the tune to be locked down and unable to be altered. This is mandated by CARB and our warranty provider. Obviously those states that comply with CARB regulations will not allow something to be considered emissions legal when such vital parameters can be so easily altered. To meet these requirements UpRev pulled out a software tool that they had developed for another company a couple of years ago but never went into production. At the time the software was not quite finalized but they worked hard to complete it and get it ready for our supercharger system.
We will have more updates as they become available but for now the most important thing to know is that there are only a couple of isolated issues and they represent a very small percentage of the total number of kits we’ve sold. We are working extremely hard to get these issues corrected and we are working directly with our customer’s to make sure their vehicle’s are safe and strong.
Thank you very much!
For the last couple of weeks we have been off the forums and working diligently on resolving the couple of issues that we have seen. We have been working behind the scenes with the couple of customers that have experienced issues after their supercharger installation. The vast majority of our customers who have received and installed their supercharger systems are on the roads and enjoying their kits. Unfortunately we have had reports from a couple of customer’s experiencing issues that we did not experience on any of the vehicles we tested prior to releasing the kit. We are continuing to work day and night and through the weekends to work on correcting any issues these customer’s have been experiencing.
To date we have been working very hard on the tuning and software that we use. Early in the development of our supercharger system we made the decision to tune via the UpRev software, directly through the factory ECU. In the beginning of the year Jared (UpRev head tuner) and John (UpRev head engineer) both flew out to our shop and trained our guys on how to use their software. This time was vital as the UPrev guys were able to show our engineers the ins and outs of their software and offer tips on what to expect. They spent about a week with our engineering team and everyone felt like we were on the right path and had a great partner to work with. Fortunately, UpRev has been very supportive to aid in correcting these couple of issues. At this time we have arranged to bring Jared out from Texas first thing Monday and he will spend next week working with our team again to correct the issues a couple of our customers are having.
The UpRev software that we are using is identical to the software used by any other UpRev tuner with only one difference that we required. With our software the end user has the ability to upload our flash tune, datalog the performance of their car, pull and read trouble codes, everything that the Osiris/Cipher software can do. The only difference is that we needed the tune to be locked down and unable to be altered. This is mandated by CARB and our warranty provider. Obviously those states that comply with CARB regulations will not allow something to be considered emissions legal when such vital parameters can be so easily altered. To meet these requirements UpRev pulled out a software tool that they had developed for another company a couple of years ago but never went into production. At the time the software was not quite finalized but they worked hard to complete it and get it ready for our supercharger system.
We will have more updates as they become available but for now the most important thing to know is that there are only a couple of isolated issues and they represent a very small percentage of the total number of kits we’ve sold. We are working extremely hard to get these issues corrected and we are working directly with our customer’s to make sure their vehicle’s are safe and strong.
Thank you very much!
08-12-2010, 11:16 PM
#137
Sorry for the thread jack, but here are a couple pics. I don't want to go into too many details, but I have had just about every reasonably priced ultra high performance tire known to mankind--at least 12 different sets, and do alignments every 3-6 months (or any time I change something....). The FK-452 were the worst. I agree, there was something wrong, but I had an alignment done at Cobb the day I put them on, and a few days after I replaced them. I was running Eibach springs with rear camber/toe kit. The specs weren't crazy (-1.5 camber, and 0.1/0.13 toe-- I had toe at 0.08 on the before alignment). Toe was out more than I would like, and that is what really eats tires, but not bad enough to chew through them in 4000 miles. Discount Tire was nice enough to give me a deal on my next set. No crazy burnouts, track sessions, and mostly highway driving....
That wear is pretty obviously not from hard driving... It looks to be an aweful lot of scrubbing and a tad bit of camber.
If you have an alignment sheet, can you post it up?
4k miles is RIDICULOUS
Even r-comps wouldn't go anywhere near that fast in street use..,
08-13-2010, 03:39 PM
#138
What is the unit of measurement on your toe?
That wear is pretty obviously not from hard driving... It looks to be an aweful lot of scrubbing and a tad bit of camber.
If you have an alignment sheet, can you post it up?
4k miles is RIDICULOUS Even r-comps wouldn't go anywhere near that fast in street use..,
That wear is pretty obviously not from hard driving... It looks to be an aweful lot of scrubbing and a tad bit of camber.
If you have an alignment sheet, can you post it up?
4k miles is RIDICULOUS
Even r-comps wouldn't go anywhere near that fast in street use..,
08-13-2010, 03:42 PM
#139
I noticed the the tires were going bald about half way into a 1000 mile road trip, and had to drive home 350 miles with them like that. That is what they looked like when I got home. Needless, to say, it was a nerve racking 350 miles with lots of stopping and checking the tires.
08-13-2010, 03:54 PM
#140
I don't blame it on the tires. I think it could have been a toe-in problem. I just realigned and zeroed out the toe yesterday and my tires show no signs of wear with 1200 mile so far. I'm running -1.5° camber.
Last edited by GraphiteG37S; 08-13-2010 at 03:59 PM.
08-13-2010, 04:17 PM
#141
I have no doubt the toe was causing some scrubbing, but even regardless of the wear, I did not really like the tires. I thought they were middle of the pack in dry performance, and pretty poor in wet performance (although increased toe also degrades wet performance). I've had 3 sets of Falken's and I just don't think they make that great of a tire. Their RT-615 is supposed to be their best street high performance "dry" tire, and the Hankook Ventus V12 (which is more of a dry/wet all around tire) beat it in both dry test comparisons I have seen.
08-13-2010, 04:30 PM
#142
^ you may be right. This is my first set of Falkens and my Hankooks when I had them were pretty worn down. I was told at the tire shop that the Falkens try to provide a softer ride as opposed to V12 without sacrificing handling. But if it's a softer ride, which I can notice it is, the compound is probably soft and prone to wear. I will just keep an eye on my alignment and toe and see how long I get out of them. I may have to try a set of V12s next brand new so I can see the difference. They did handle pretty good considering how bald they were. Lol
