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Old 05-09-2016, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Rr1982
And it accelerates smoothly
Yes. Even when it was bad before cleaning the plugs.

The issue only when idling up to 2.5k rpm or so with no a/c.
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Engine shakes when the A/C is OFF !!

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Well, SonicVQ..you're the man

It's clearly the 6th Cylinder is misfiring like hell. Here are the logs:

Test report:
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MID:$01 TID:$83
- O2 Bank 1 Sensor 1
Max: 65.535V Min: 0.4V
Test result value: 2.14V
PASS
----
MID:$01 TID:$84
- O2 Bank 1 Sensor 1
Max: 4.399V Min: 0V
Test result value: 2.14V
PASS
----
MID:$01 TID:$85
- O2 Bank 1 Sensor 1
Max: 2.149V Min: 0V
Test result value: 2.07V
PASS
----
MID:$01 TID:$86
- O2 Bank 1 Sensor 1
Max: 65.535V Min: 2.25V
Test result value: 5.065V
PASS
----
MID:$01 TID:$87
- O2 Bank 1 Sensor 1
Max: 65.535 Min: 0.3
Test result value: 0.558
PASS
----
MID:$01 TID:$88
- O2 Bank 1 Sensor 1
Max: 65.535 Min: 0.3
Test result value: 0.48
PASS
----
MID:$01 TID:$89
- O2 Bank 1 Sensor 1
Max: 0.449 Min: -32.768
Test result value: -0.04
PASS
----
MID:$02 TID:$07
Minimum sensor Voltage for test cycle(calculated) - O2 Bank 1 Sensor 2
Max: 0.17V Min: 0V
Test result value: 0.17V
PASS
----
MID:$02 TID:$08
Maximum sensor Voltage for test cycle(calculated) - O2 Bank 1 Sensor 2
Max: 2.55V Min: 0.7V
Test result value: 0.7V
PASS
----
MID:$02 TID:$80
- O2 Bank 1 Sensor 2
Max: 1.19V Min: 0V
Test result value: 0.2V
PASS
----
MID:$02 TID:$81
- O2 Bank 1 Sensor 2
Max: 2.55V Min: 0.48V
Test result value: 0.6V
PASS
----
MID:$02 TID:$82
- O2 Bank 1 Sensor 2
Max: 3.9S Min: 0S
Test result value: 0.4S
PASS
----
MID:$05 TID:$83
- O2 Bank 2 Sensor 1
Max: 65.535V Min: 0.4V
Test result value: 2.085V
PASS
----
MID:$05 TID:$84
- O2 Bank 2 Sensor 1
Max: 4.399V Min: 0V
Test result value: 2.085V
PASS
----
MID:$05 TID:$85
- O2 Bank 2 Sensor 1
Max: 2.149V Min: 0V
Test result value: 2.04V
PASS
----
MID:$05 TID:$86
- O2 Bank 2 Sensor 1
Max: 65.535V Min: 2.25V
Test result value: 5.065V
PASS
----
MID:$05 TID:$87
- O2 Bank 2 Sensor 1
Max: 65.535 Min: 0.3
Test result value: 0.694
PASS
----
MID:$05 TID:$88
- O2 Bank 2 Sensor 1
Max: 65.535 Min: 0.3
Test result value: 0.594
PASS
----
MID:$05 TID:$89
- O2 Bank 2 Sensor 1
Max: 0.449 Min: -32.768
Test result value: 0.17
PASS
----
MID:$06 TID:$07
Minimum sensor Voltage for test cycle(calculated) - O2 Bank 2 Sensor 2
Max: 0.17V Min: 0V
Test result value: 0.16V
PASS
----
MID:$06 TID:$08
Maximum sensor Voltage for test cycle(calculated) - O2 Bank 2 Sensor 2
Max: 2.55V Min: 0.7V
Test result value: 0.7V
PASS
----
MID:$06 TID:$80
- O2 Bank 2 Sensor 2
Max: 1.19V Min: 0V
Test result value: 0.67V
PASS
----
MID:$06 TID:$81
- O2 Bank 2 Sensor 2
Max: 2.55V Min: 0.48V
Test result value: 0.48V
PASS
----
MID:$06 TID:$82
- O2 Bank 2 Sensor 2
Max: 3.9S Min: 0S
Test result value: 2.3S
PASS
----
MID:$21 TID:$80
- Catalyst Monitor Bank 1
Test incomplete or dependant test failed
--
MID:$21 TID:$82
- Catalyst Monitor Bank 1
Test incomplete or dependant test failed
--
MID:$22 TID:$80
- Catalyst Monitor Bank 2
Test incomplete or dependant test failed
--
MID:$22 TID:$82
- Catalyst Monitor Bank 2
Test incomplete or dependant test failed
--
MID:$35 TID:$80
-
Max: 13° Min: -13°
Test result value: 2.5°
PASS
----
MID:$35 TID:$82
-
Max: 13° Min: -13°
Test result value: 1°
PASS
----
MID:$35 TID:$84
-
Max: 499ms Min: 0ms
Test result value: 109ms
PASS
----
MID:$35 TID:$85
-
Max: 10,779ms Min: 0ms
Test result value: 10ms
PASS
----
MID:$36 TID:$80
-
Max: 13° Min: -13°
Test result value: 4.5°
PASS
----
MID:$36 TID:$82
-
Max: 13° Min: -13°
Test result value: 0°
PASS
----
MID:$36 TID:$84
-
Max: 499ms Min: 0ms
Test result value: 107ms
PASS
----
MID:$36 TID:$85
-
Max: 2,379ms Min: 0ms
Test result value: 20ms
PASS
----
MID:$3c TID:$81
- EVAP Monitor (0.040")
Max: 32.767kPa Min: 0.43kPa
Test result value: 32.767kPa
PASS
----
MID:$3c TID:$82
- EVAP Monitor (0.040")
Max: 32.767kPa Min: 0.1kPa
Test result value: 32.767kPa
PASS
----
MID:$3d TID:$83
- EVAP Monitor (0.020")
Max: 655.34998V Min: 0.02V
Test result value: 0.03V
PASS
----
MID:$41 TID:$81
- O2 Heater Monitor Bank 1 - Sensor 1
Max: 4.779V Min: 0.39V
Test result value: 1.205V
PASS
----
MID:$42 TID:$80
- O2 Heater Monitor Bank 1 - Sensor 2
Max: 4.71V Min: 0.24V
Test result value: 1.58V
PASS
----
MID:$45 TID:$81
- O2 Heater Monitor Bank 2 - Sensor 1
Max: 4.779V Min: 0.39V
Test result value: 1.195V
PASS
----
MID:$46 TID:$80
- O2 Heater Monitor Bank 2 - Sensor 2
Max: 4.71V Min: 0.24V
Test result value: 1.44V
PASS
----
MID:$81 TID:$80
- Fuel System Monitor Bank 1
Test incomplete or dependant test failed
--
MID:$81 TID:$81
- Fuel System Monitor Bank 1
Test incomplete or dependant test failed
--
MID:$82 TID:$80
- Fuel System Monitor Bank 2
Test incomplete or dependant test failed
--
MID:$82 TID:$81
- Fuel System Monitor Bank 2
Test incomplete or dependant test failed
--
MID:$a2 TID:$0b
EWMA Misfire counts (average) for last 10 drive cycles - Misfire Cylinder 1 Data
Max: 65,535Count Min: 0Count
Test result value: 0Count
PASS
----
MID:$a2 TID:$0c
Misfire counts for last/current driving cycles(calculated) - Misfire Cylinder 1 Data
Max: 65,535Count Min: 0Count
Test result value: 0Count
PASS
----
MID:$a3 TID:$0b
EWMA Misfire counts (average) for last 10 drive cycles - Misfire Cylinder 2 Data
Max: 65,535Count Min: 0Count
Test result value: 0Count
PASS
----
MID:$a3 TID:$0c
Misfire counts for last/current driving cycles(calculated) - Misfire Cylinder 2 Data
Max: 65,535Count Min: 0Count
Test result value: 0Count
PASS
----
MID:$a4 TID:$0b
EWMA Misfire counts (average) for last 10 drive cycles - Misfire Cylinder 3 Data
Max: 65,535Count Min: 0Count
Test result value: 2Count
PASS
----
MID:$a4 TID:$0c
Misfire counts for last/current driving cycles(calculated) - Misfire Cylinder 3 Data
Max: 65,535Count Min: 0Count
Test result value: 1Count
PASS
----
MID:$a5 TID:$0b
EWMA Misfire counts (average) for last 10 drive cycles - Misfire Cylinder 4 Data
Max: 65,535Count Min: 0Count
Test result value: 0Count
PASS
----
MID:$a5 TID:$0c
Misfire counts for last/current driving cycles(calculated) - Misfire Cylinder 4 Data
Max: 65,535Count Min: 0Count
Test result value: 0Count
PASS
----
MID:$a6 TID:$0b
EWMA Misfire counts (average) for last 10 drive cycles - Misfire Cylinder 5 Data
Max: 65,535Count Min: 0Count
Test result value: 2Count
PASS
----
MID:$a6 TID:$0c
Misfire counts for last/current driving cycles(calculated) - Misfire Cylinder 5 Data
Max: 65,535Count Min: 0Count
Test result value: 3Count
PASS
----
MID:$a7 TID:$0b
EWMA Misfire counts (average) for last 10 drive cycles - Misfire Cylinder 6 Data
Max: 65,535Count Min: 0Count
Test result value: 15Count
PASS
----
MID:$a7 TID:$0c
Misfire counts for last/current driving cycles(calculated) - Misfire Cylinder 6 Data
Max: 65,535Count Min: 0Count
Test result value: 213Count
PASS
----
End of report.
I just read all of your status reports and have not seen one cylinder 6 misfire they all say pass. Also we do not have wideband OEM O2 sensors. I would suggest pulling your bank 2 O2 sensors and cleaning them with mass air flow cleaner wiping them off really well. Have you looked at your tailpipe when the car is idling and when you throttle up at a dead stop have someone staying back there or have someone put your throttle pedal and see how much black smoke blows out of both pipes or one pipe that would cause a bad idle and have a less noticable effect on acceleration.
Old 05-09-2016, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Rr1982
I just read all of your status reports and have not seen one cylinder 6 misfire they all say pass. Also we do not have wideband OEM O2 sensors. I would suggest pulling your bank 2 O2 sensors and cleaning them with mass air flow cleaner wiping them off really well
Yup it says pass but you can see the counts number only in current cycle was 215.

As for OEM sensors, check this out:

https://www.myg37.com/forums/audio-v...ed-temp-5.html

That's likely what I'm going to do. I'm even thinking of repacing the o2 sensors with new ones.
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Originally Posted by DevilsG37s
Yup it says pass but you can see the counts number only in current cycle was 215.

As for OEM sensors, check this out:

https://www.myg37.com/forums/audio-v...ed-temp-5.html

That's likely what I'm going to do. I'm even thinking of repacing the o2 sensors with new ones.
Narrow band reads 0 - 1 volt and a wideband reads 0 to 5 volts that post that you link is misinformation and misunderstanding by the poster
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Originally Posted by Rr1982
Narrow band reads 0 - 1 volt and a wideband reads 0 to 5 volts that post that you link is misinformation and misunderstanding by the poster
Then no, I don't have a wideband sensor. But may I ask what would you want to know if there is a wideband one?

I can get you the AFR while idling, cruising and when in WOT very accurately.
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Well I'll tell you.idle should around 14.0-14.7.cruise AFR around 14.0-14.5 AFR wide open throttle around 12.5-13.0 AFR on an NA car.
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If you pull that O2 sensor in it looks anything like some of those plugs then I would say you definitely have a contaminated O2 sensor which could be causing a problem and it could be because of the STP
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But honestly if 40000 miles it shouldn't need O2 sensors
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I'll try and inspect the sensor when I have some free time.
40k miles with no STP **** then you're right lol.

Hopefully some sensor cleaning and everything would be great again.

Thanks man
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Keep us posted. Good luck
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Use some aerokroil to loosen those.
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Originally Posted by Rr1982
Use some aerokroil to loosen those.
Actually I know a buddy of mine that has a shop which installed many exhaust and has Oxy Acetylene Torch which can loosen up the sensors pretty easily.

Will contact him for the next weekend to work on those sensors.
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Check AFR at idle and look for rich exhaust first
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Originally Posted by Rr1982
Check AFR at idle and look for rich exhaust first
Checked, Idling at 14.6~
Also checked when putting high beams, still misfiring.

The thing is that after a couple days after cleaning the tbs and the plugs, all went well only for a couple days. Now the misfiring and the shaking is back only slightly less than before but very noticeable.
Made a test report and now it's cylinder #2 is the one that is misfiring non stop.

I guess my O2 sensors are bad so I ordered a couple from rockauto "denso"

Will first clean injectors by an injector cleaning machine. After that change the plugs and the sensors all together.

Will report back after.
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